Perpetual solar self sustainer.

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Funy you should mention  high voltage, I was looking at lighting today,
trying to find the most amount of light for the least amount of power,
what do you think about these HID lamps ?

High-intensity discharge lamps (HID lamps)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_discharge_lamp

relatively cheap If purchased at a car accessory store 

Right, very unusual.   CFL's and fluorescent tubes have been my speed until now.   I never saw the high powered IMAX movie projector bulb until that Wikipedia article.   It's a simple thing to look at, but seeing it gives me the feeling brute electrical force is needed to ignite an arc in it.   15,000 Watts?   Power transformers outside movie theaters often weigh several tons.   Now I see why.

In terms of power as a BEMF/CEMF capture scheme, I was thinking of three xenon tubes with all three of the 4,000V igniter electrodes in series to make an inexpensive spark gap.   Then put the whole thing in a grounded steel can of some kind to prevent EMI from escaping.   I'll think about a schematic later.

That's the sort of thing I think of in my off moments by myself.
Oh, powercat, I didn't understand at first:   My "restricted computer" was only being filtered for content at the Salvation Army for children using them daily and against explicit sites, of course.   They're a religion, you know.    But that was all.
        I still will do as I said in my previous post, however.

--Lee

[powercat]

Nice one Lee, I look forward to that big bang  spark gap 
Here's a bit of cut and paste research I've been doing

HID headlamp burners produce between 2,800 and 3,500 lumens from between 35 and 38 watts of electrical power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_HID_headlamp#HID_.28xenon.29_light_source.

Calculating actual solar panel output?

The best I have seen it 50 to 80 percent of the rating of a panel.

When I was testing my system earlier, I estimated that I got about 1/10 the power generation on a cloudy day as I would get on a sunny day

http://www.fieldlines.com/board/index.php/topic,135582.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux

[stevensrd1]

Well I may not fully understand how it works,,but it does, and works just as good at recharging another battery separately but takes days. Better yet check out my overunity pulse charger,,runs on two bats and charges two bats in 24 hours,,sometimes longer but all things considered is pretty neat, here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZsSZt2PWMg

[the_big_m_in_ok]

A vid on my perpetual solar self sustainer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5K11dCgulY

Thanks for the video, stevens...
You're plenty right in proving what you're showing and doing, and indeed the video above does show the LED charging 4ea. solar panels, wired in series, to a
power-stabilized standstill.   Power input = output.   I was going to ask for a schematic at first, but the concept is simple enough to understand by itself.

Since you have such a simple setup, have you thought of more modules for more power for an actual positive charging effect over time---up to the limit of the Joule Thief's input parameters?   You can use the extra power for something else.

Better yet, more LED's for strongly illuminating the modules, and getting a positive charging effect that way?


Using either LED's or fluorescent tubes/bulbs are definitely the way to go.  They use 1/3 the power of a incandescent bulb for proportional light production.

--Lee

[stevensrd1]

ive used different types of joule thief circuits,,usually from solar yard lights,,few i have made. And I have used different solar panels, wired different ways. I find the small solar cells work best and wired in series, but I have not tried that many really considering all that is out there. I have found ways to lower the drain by using a resistor after the coil and then using a diode before the actual led to name a few of the ways I have did this. I find it lowers the light output but only barely, which causes less battery drain but the solar cells can still produce enough to go back into  itself,,its very tricky to say the least as the led and solar cells must be so close like two inches apart and it must be positioned just right over the cells for maximum output. At the moment i have rewired it a bit and have it charging a separate battery instead of itself,,slow process of course but works as well. A better way or using two batteries to run a motor and at the same time can recharge two other batteries can be found here, another video under my youtube name. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZsSZt2PWMg