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Perpetual solar self sustainer.

Started by stevensrd1, November 11, 2011, 04:36:14 PM

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the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: powercat on November 12, 2011, 04:10:47 PM
That kind of statement reminds me of the Bendini arguments that went on for years about batteries  ::)
needless to say we are not running our homes on Bendini motors,very good research it was though
Could I pose another concern similar to powercat's, from the point using a different tack to approach the issue of possible system inefficiency?
Thus,
If you take a look at this...  http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a68b28b7563b359483d946bc7d4486f2&topic=1002.0
...I started a thread to maintain that the components of an invented system that does the same thing as yours has efficiencies low enough to prevent a 'return on investment' in terms of cost for the system.

Here's an example:  An LED light bulb can put out the same light as a 40W incandescent bulb, while using, say, 13W of power.   Typical performance for LED's.   Radio Shack solar modules put out 6 VDC at around 50 mA in full, noonday sunlight.   See:  http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131051

If one wishes an to produce an industry-standard 100 net Watts from a fairly large system as a replacement for a 100W solar panel, as designed in a way you appear to have described, it'll be 13W + 100W net = 113W to recharge the batterie(s) and allow an extra 100W output.   113W total.

One module gives  6VDC @ 50mA, for .3 of a Watt.  113/.3 = a little over 377.  That's in series for 6VDC.   5 NiCd batteries can be wired in Radio Shack holders for 6VDC.  But, if a solar module costs about $15 American, that's around $5,700, especially with tax added.   The batteries and light-proof enclosure are more still.   (I could look up the electrical efficiencies of LED's, solar cell types and battery charge rates over time for different types of batteries, but I need more time than I have on this computer.)

I assert the efficiency of the whole system I've experimented on a small scale with, has shone the output to be slightly less from one actual incandescent bulb(about 5VDC), than in the noonday sun on a cloudless day in San Francisco.

I honestly don't want to dampen your enthusiasm any more than than powercat does.  I merely post what I've done in what I say is experimentally and mathematically different than your test results show.
        I'm not allowed to look at YouTube from this restricted computer, but I can go to another computer room next week and see your video for myself on another computer.   I'll try and be be fair to both of us---me especially---and say that I may be missing something without the experience of your precise video test results in particular to go by.   I'll postpone my final opinion after I see your video.

I freely admit I can be wrong like anyone else.   Just my opinion worth 2 cents.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

powercat

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on November 12, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
        I'm not allowed to look at YouTube from this restricted computer, but I can go to another computer room next week and see your video for myself on another computer.

@Lee
8)Are you working in a top security facility or something like that ?

@stevensrd1
Any news or thoughts ?

When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: powercat on November 15, 2011, 11:05:28 AM
@Lee
8)Are you working in a top security facility or something like that?
Not yet.   I might get into electronic engineering in the future, since I did it in the early 80's for then-current technology as R&D.   I'm familiarizing myself with basic concepts now, with possibly some increased interest high voltage in a few years.   Simple work for now and on my own.

With a healthy! respect for AC line voltage and current levels!!

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: stevensrd1 on November 11, 2011, 04:36:14 PM
A vid on my perpetual solar self sustainer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5K11dCgulY
Hi Steven...
Could you upload a schematic on the setup you have?   For myself, I have only one place I can view "YouTube" videos for any reasonable time period with reliable computers.   I'll go through the video again to try and figure out  exactly how your device works, but I think I know the basic premise behind it.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

powercat

Funy you should mention  high voltage, I was looking at lighting today,
trying to find the most amount of light for the least amount of power,
what do you think about these HID lamps ?

High-intensity discharge lamps (HID lamps)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_discharge_lamp

relatively cheap If purchased at a car accessory store  :)
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall