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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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profitis

my my.now one thing is  crystal clear: i AM a teacher in your case @sarkeizen.you know nothing about concentration cell college basics it seems.i was going to start uploading textbook quotas for everyone as step 2 proceeded but i see you are now stuck on step 1, which is one of the basicest questions of the formal college basics on concentration cells.did you not do electrochemistry in college @sarkeizen.they often ask the students to build very specific types of cells.let me try again:lets pretend that you are a student,im a teacher,and i demand you build a hydrogen concentration cell and a copper concentration cell for exams.do you agree with the logic of this hypothetical demand or not @sarkeizen.if not please make yourself agree with it so that i can proceed to uploaded textbook citations in support of its logicity and hence in support of an self-powered ipod.you wanted steps,now help us move to step 2

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on December 18, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
my my.now one thing is  crystal clear: i AM a teacher in your case
Not really.  So far you have not demonstrated, to me that you have anything to teach.  You have spent most of your time avoiding the question and dodging something you implied was very easy.  As I've stated you're likely a troll or a very stupid person.  Neither I'd consider taking a class from.
Quote@sarkeizen.you know nothing about concentration cell college basics
So far there's no reason to believe you know anything pertinent to the discussion concerning textbooks which somehow prove you can build an everlasting , 2nd law violating ipod charger.  That is the point at hand.  Please try to keep to it.
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let me try again:lets pretend that you are a student,im a teacher,and i demand you build a hydrogen concentration cell and a copper concentration cell for exams
Considering what I know of you I don't believe you have anything to teach.  So I kick you in the groin many times and leave the class.  You howl and writhe with pain on the floor and just before you black out you wish you had taken a logic course from me...

Quotedo you agree with the logic of this hypothetical demand or not
Since what I posted above is a potential consequence of being in that situation which clearly ends without proving your point.  We can assume that your next step can not force your conclusion - that is if it is at least slightly possible for me not to stay in your class.  Then there is a possible alternative to your next statement.  Hence it is not forced.  Ergo you have not made a formal logical argument. 

Congratulations on your big steaming cup of fail.

Quoteso that i can proceed to uploaded textbook citations
Dude you have lied about this so many times.  If you wanted to upload a cite, if you had a cite that made your point then you would likely have posted it by now.

If you want to make a formal argument you should make clear your set of assumptions, support them from textbook cites then introduce your steps going from there to your conclusion.  Anything else is begging the question.

profitis

ok so lets say that the teacher is not me.lets say that the teacher is someone else,like say for example the teacher at princeton varsity,and you the student.lets say this to avoid your personal dislike of my classroom and to avoid potential violence.lets say that the princeton teacher now makes a sudden demand of you to construct a hydrogen concentration cell and copper concentration cell for the fun of it.do you now think that this is a reasonable and logic hypothetical demand @sarkeizen.if not why dont you just pretend that you think it is so that we can move forward onto step number 2 @sarkeizen.you,re holding me and the audience up now,the letters E.O.A. come to mind.

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on December 19, 2013, 12:45:56 AM
ok so lets say that the teacher is not me.lets say that the teacher is someone else,like say for example the teacher at princeton varsity,and you the student.lets say this to avoid your personal dislike of my classroom and to avoid potential violence.lets say that the princeton teacher now makes a sudden demand of you to construct a hydrogen concentration cell and copper concentration cell for the fun of it.
How can someone demand that I do something for the fun of it?  Isn't that the antithesis of "fun"?  Is fun mandated where you live?

I find the mandated fun to be abhorrent and withdraw from the class.  The teacher weeps openly at the loss of such a great mind and wonders why they ever decided to be such a totalitarian dick.

Ever thought of making this about an argument rather than people?  It might go more quickly.  Your choice though be as stupid as you like.

Quotewhy dont you just pretend that you think it is so
Uh, so you want me to pretend that one of your premises follows another when it doesn't?  Why not just pretend I already pretended this and just provide cites to textbooks? Or better yet pretend that you're wrong and admit it.  Those are all pretty much equivalent actions.

Quoteyou,re holding me and the audience up now,the letters E.O.A. come to mind.
Yawn, no you're only imagining that I'm holding you up.  There is nothing actually stopping you from posting a cite to a textbook which proves your case.  You tried this lie before remember?  You pretended that if I did something you would post something?  Sorry not interested.

profitis

because the hypothetical questions by the varsity teacher are pertinent to me showing everybody the enormous obstructionist asshole that you are @sarkeizen. varsity teachers shoot their questions in direct proportion to written text from text-books thus your refusal to answer to the logicity of very real potential questions that may rise up in princeton,for exams,or for fun, show us that you are here today on one mission:to win .E.O.A. of the year award.im not going to show one single quote until you answer that question,which makes up part 1 of a several step series of evidence of a self-powered battery.answer that question for us @sarkeizen.do you think its logical for a college or varsity teacher to ask a student to build a hydrogen and copper concentration cell.just answer yes or no please.no other words,just yes or no.