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[profitis]

@sarkeizen 1)a concentration cell is not informal.it is fully compliant with textbook rules governing concentration cells.the nernstian equation holding strong and totalitarian.that diagram is a diagram of a concentration cell.that diagram is a diagram of a wikipedia oxygen concentration cell.you have to prove otherwise. 2)even if i demonstrate a working everlasting battery between your 2 positions A and B it doesnt imply that your implications are atrociously meaningless? Try shoving palladium and silver in electrolyte under hydrogen sometime and come back to me with your complaints.

[profitis]

@mark E,whoooarr,hey,dontcha think that if i can tell you how to build a perpetual battery with things lying around your lab that phillip just may,may be right buddy? :-)

[MarkE]

@mark E,whoooarr,hey,dontcha think that if i can tell you how to build a perpetual battery with things lying around your lab that phillip just may,may be right buddy? :-)

Profitis, whether Mr. Hardcastle's ideas are right or wrong, his experiments can't tell.

If you can build a perpetual battery, have you done so and disconnected from the utility grid?  If you haven't disconnected, then why not?

[sarkeizen]

@sarkeizen 1)a concentration cell is not informal.it is fully compliant with textbook rules governing concentration cells

You are simply re-stating part of your hypothesis here.  It's not a formal argument, which would be required to make your point.

2)even if i demonstrate a working everlasting battery

This is, as mentioned before impossible to demonstrate purely empirically.  So it's begging the question. 

Try shoving palladium and silver in electrolyte under hydrogen sometime and come back to me with your complaints.

Is this you conceding the point?  I did ask you to make a "build it" statement if you were conceding the point.  It's also an implied argument from ignorance...another logical fallacy,.

[profitis]

@mark E,,the utility grid is 240volts and 20 000 milliamps with no discharge curve. my battery is 1volt and 30milliamps/cm2 with a discharge curve.how much palladium do you want me to buy to go off-grid? I,l stick to using it for ipods thanks (-:.