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lumen

Quote from: sarkeizen on April 15, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
Riddle me this.  Your knowledge of information theory is somewhere between zero and negative a million right?  Why do you suppose that you can ask a question of relevance?

Here's a better link to Fu's (ancient) paper

Yawn.  It's no more a refutation of information theory than any of the bozos here selling experimental error.  Essentially Fu claims something happened which hasn't been replicated by anyone reputable.  It's recorded in a paper (and a video) which AFAIK has never been published in a Journal even by the comparatively lax standards in China.

Actually it has been replicated and is in fact known to operate as described.

AND.....

I was quite sure you couldn't answer that one simple question.

My book is now closed!


sarkeizen

Quote from: lumen on April 15, 2015, 11:51:38 PM
Actually it has been replicated and is in fact known to operate as described.
Perhaps "Known" in the delusional sense you use the term.  But is it "replicated by someone reputable" - in the sense that it was done in a highly controlled environment.  If so, where is the journal article of that?  Nowhere it seems.   From what I can see this is over ELEVEN years old and it's pretty much just sat there but I'm sure you have cooked up a conspiracy theory to help you sleep at night.
QuoteI was quite sure you couldn't answer that one simple question.
How do you know your question is simple?  Put another way: You're asking something like: "When is purple?"
Quote
My book is now closed!
I think you mean "mind". ;)

MarkE

Quote from: lumen on April 15, 2015, 09:48:16 PM
I have a question!
Now that there is a room temperature "Maxwell Demon", does that indicate that "Information Theory" is wrong or only some parts may be wrong?

Sarky? Your the expert.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/w3jvt0z3336f9h7/Maksvelov%20demon%20pobedjen.pdf
Just in case you don't know.
Capacitors store charge, just in case you didn't know.  Fu neglected to provide or use a discharge mechanism.  Such a shunt should have been engaged across the device output prior to any handling of the magnet and remained closed until the system was mechanically stable.

profitis

Sarkeizen:'To what you claim is an argument which is formal
AND compelling.  Right?'

Again you are requesting statement-status in a combat situation.you won't get it from me mr sarkeizen.you have to attack the scientific statement head-on using textbooks.

Sarkeizen:'Put together with another device to create a device
with more bits. :)'

Same as a computer yes.you have one switch that gives such n such amount bits now you can have two switches that give additional bits.by the way,a single two-bit can spontaneously grow into a larger magnitude two-bit yes.

profitis

Mark E:'Allegedly he did.  The device is not available for
independent evaluation.  Go put a AA alkaline cell in
the drawer and come back in 10 years.  It will still
have 80% of its charge capacity  without any claim of
a second law violation.'

Gold and platinum or nickel and carbon or any components from his patent are widely available for independant evaluation.any sealed karpen or karpen-related pile will lose exactly zero% capacity over ten years.infact they gain capacity after total discharge.very unlike a zinc-carbon.you can check all this out.