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Mehran T. Keshe Technologies

Started by AbbaRue, August 31, 2012, 11:45:09 PM

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Farmhand

Quote from: ponto on December 22, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
This guy (Joshua Thomas) has posted a replication video for the Keshe Plasma Reactor. In the information below the video (click "Show more") he has a .pdf with other information as well. I haven't felt the need (yet) to try this on my own but some here might. He tends to ramble a bit near the end but the how is pretty clear.

Keshe Plasma Generator~Breaking Laws of Physics~Infinite Energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs

Interesting, he got a voltage but did not use it. there was no energy utilized in that video none, nada, zippo.
What load can he run from that. And to claim he is somehow explaining gravity is a joke.

If he has all that energy why did he not light up an led or a neon or something.

Strange video.


Qwert

Quote from: Farmhand on December 25, 2012, 04:51:34 PM
Interesting, he got a voltage but did not use it. there was no energy utilized in that video none, nada, zippo.
What load can he run from that. And to claim he is somehow explaining gravity is a joke.

If he has all that energy why did he not light up an led or a neon or something.

Strange video.



I guess, he created the video only for money collected from the amount of views: within several days he already got over fourteen thousand views. I see no benefit from watching it.

Farmhand

Yes there could be many explanations of why a voltage was developed in that arrangement.

I don't drink alcohol, I have nothing against the consumption of alcohol in general.

But if a guy cannot keep off the beers long enough to demonstrate a so called "device to benefit all mankind",
then his credibility is shot to pieces in my eyes.

When I see a demonstration of a Keshe coke bottle device powering something of significance I will give it a second look.

It is worth noting that Keshe an Meyl are buddies so in my opinion if one is a deceiver then so is the other.

Just because a person has a degree does not make them immune to corruption, selling out for money or threat, or deception.
On the contrary a degree makes a deceiver that is more difficult to "out".

From people with degree's we should expect very detailed and correct power/energy measurements,
if detailed and correct power/energy measurements are not supplied by these people then that is a red flag in itself.

Cheers




ramset

FH
Of course as usual your sound logic Takes the day,And since I can't watch Vids at my home {yet] I have only minimal "info" except an increase /Building charge claimed here.

Which I must add ,"I" do not understand ?[yet]

As one addendum to your comment regarding measurements and the "educated" [specific fields].

The guy at the top of this page ,as well as several other men on these pages
have been giving us an education for many years on "proper measurement"
technique.

I see you have been at O.U.R. .......also a proper education to be had there!

We grow more informed and effective by the moment ....AND I"M LUVIN EVERY MINUTE !![I believe you feel this way too].

And since we need to work together to maximize our limited resources,I would like to add this comment.....

You are a good man ,with good input and intentions ,It would benefit our community for you and Duncan to come to a "professional" aggreement!
This "thing " between you  stifles progress in some places........
And actually keeps some doors closed that need to open.......
Thx
Chet


Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Gwandau

AbbaRue, Sadang and all the rest of you inspired by the Keshe theory,


To try to duplicate any device refered to by Keshe involves a level of understanding that Keshe so far has not been willing to disclose. Too many unknown parameters lay in the way, making the probability of competitive success just as small as intended by Keshe. Myself being involved in a research laboratory as a product developer in the surface coating industry, I know the size of the so called "window" accessible i relation to the parameters given.

Therefore my advice to you guys would be to gain enough understanding to be able to perform a set of tests that may confirm Keshes ideas. If you are not able to configure such tests, your are not even close to having access to enough parameters needed for any actual plasma experiment or whatever area of the Keshe paradigm you want to explore.

Do you see where I am coming from?


I have since many years been deeply interested in theories describing physical reality from viewpoints other than the ruling orthodox one.

It has caught my interest due to the obvious insights gained by the originators, who all seem to coincide on the same absolute disregard for contemporary science. Unfortunately this disregard is not balanced by the set of validation experiments needed to gain any scientific gravity, which sadly leaves these often non scientifically schooled guys out in the cold, since it is my conviction that they all may have som substantial new insights to share, given the proper attention.

I have read a lot of wonderful theories, which all seem to grasp the unifying fundament of physical universe, but they just have no value until we find a way to validate them.

I just love the Unity theory of David Barclay, it makes everything fit together in a harmonious context, and likewise the Electrical Universe and the Physical model of Keshe, not to forget the amazing thoughts about the dynamics of physical reality by Victor Schauberger and so on and so forth, but there is no gravity to a theory without validation history.

As we say in Sweden, "there has to be meat on the bones".

But since any scientific model is merely ... a model, it is all about which of the models that best seem to endure a correctly performed scientific evaluation method. As we all know, the contemporary orthodox view has the lead in this regard. There just is not any effective test methods yet that fits for the competing models.

But again, our present scientific model really does not describe very much in regard to source dynamics, since it unfortunately lacks any fundamental information in this regard, but instead tends to concentrate on the direct practical usage derived from observing the relationship between known physical parameters. Most of contemporary science's so called fundamental laws are merely relative observations without any omnipresent unifying spine. The moment contemporary science tries to close in on any source dynamics of our known so called forces, we seem to get entangled in the paradoxes and contradictions of quantum theory, which obviously is indicating an unfortunate choice of viewpoint taken by science.


The ideas presented by Keshe, as well as any other theory with such a magnitude of claim, should only be presented officially if they are fully backed up with repeatedly performable scientifically valid experiments.


My input here is not to critisize, but to initiate an interest  in finding ways to validate anything postulated by Keshe, and there actually seems to be one way to put him to test regarding the spherical magneto gravitational field dynamics presented by Keshe. According to his field theory, anything relates to anything else as a separate field, deciding the relative position of particles within the atom as well as the planetary positions in a solar system by their relative field value.

This could be put to test by dropping two similarly shaped objects of exact same weight from a certain height, preferably from a considerable height such as a kilometer or more, for example from a helicopter, in a highly controlled manner, where one of the objects contains a big high gauss permanent magnet, and the other object contains a non magnetic and non conductive material. If the object containing the magnet would fall slower than the other object, it would prove the theory of Keshe as well as the Unity theory of David Barclay, which in some instances are surprisingly similar.


With this input I want to emphasize the paramount importance of rigourous scientific validation procedure needed to add any gravity to a novel theory.

This is not religion, guys, it has nothing to do with faith.

I am a true connoisseur in this field. There is always an initial period, a so called "honey moon", when you are engulfed by the beauty and harmony of the theory, but if you really are in love, it's you duty to put that love to test.

Gwandau