Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[tak22]

hanon,

Thanks for your kind words, but in all honesty it's your Figuera info on this page that I used for investigating!

I based my timeline chart on the translated texts and the patent drawings, and once you start laying them out they make sense. In some cases there can be virtually no doubt, in others it makes sense in relation to what is written and the re-use of confirmed drawings.

The drawing progression goes from conventional generator design with only enough space for a coreless induced coil, then to side by side inducers with no induced core shown, to side by side inducers with induced core, then finally to linear with induced core. Once you see the pattern you can almost foolproof determine the patent profile by it's drawing alone!

And now I'll climb out on the limb and say that any talk about needing massive amounts of iron and miles of wire is suspect. Nothing I read in all of these patents even hints at anything so subtle going on that it requires a "go big or go home" unit to show the effect. No harm intended for anyone that is approaching it this way, there's no manual after all!

This isn't a current project for me, just observing and commenting.

tak

[RandyFL]

Noted...

I have read the patents... I haven't studied the patents in great detail because I am not there yet ( meaning...I had to get the electronics done first )... as I explained to Ramaswami I started electronics school about the same time as He did... I marvel at the 555, the arduino and the raspberry Pi 2... and anything that comes down the pike electronically or magnetically...but most of all I marvel at the mathematics behind it... Michael Faraday taught himself... Tesla quit the university... I studied some of Tesla's patents more than I have studied Clemente's admittedly... I have an arduino and the Raspberry Pi 2 sitting and waiting to be used... I ordered two more of them in case I break them or whatever...I have poured over 1000 s of schematics looking at semiconductors...looking and grasping concepts that I can use down the line...I am not frustrated as Hernandez stated...my tests are backed up from when I had my surgery in May...on the contrary I am excited about the possibilities...

I assumed the apparatus that Bajac built worked...but more importantly I want to hear the results ( what did work - and why something didn't work ) frame by frame I watched Woopy and Kehyo... looked at what they did and what they use/d... I poured over the pictures that Bajac produced... examined and studied each frame each square inch of His work space...what He built...the equipment He uses ( the names of the equipment.... Not because I'm " dedicated "........but because I am " INTERESTED " I'm interested in finding how Clemente reached his conclusions...He must of sat there and watched motors spin ( or anything that spun ) for hrs... days... months...years or whatever until the machine and the mathematics melded......................................kinda like watching Led s light 

[NRamaswami]

I'm sorry I have to post this reply..I neither feel offended nor intend to offend any one but some talk and comments are clearly not acceptable.

I will always trust the man who would walk the talk and put the money where his mouth is..Simple. This is what a simple minded person with common sense would do..

Regarding the drawing..on 30378..Patent

Please see the Claims for that patent below:

"Founded on these considerations, Mr. Clemente Figuera and Mr. Pedro
Blasberg, in the name and on behalf of the society "Figuera-Blasberg"
respectfully requests to be granted final patent of invention for this generator
whose form and arrangement are shown in the attached drawings, warning that,
in them, and for clarity are sketched only eight electromagnets, or two sets of
four excitatory electromagnets in each, and the induced circuit is marked by a
thick line of reddish ink, being this way the general arrangement of the
appliance, but meaning that you can put more or less electromagnets and in
another form or grouping"

I clearly remember seeing the Red Line of the induced coils in this patent when I saw it first. Red line has suddenly disappeared..

A check on the web archive shows that 9 changes were made to this page..Please see..http://web.archive.org/web/20130501000000*/http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258

Regarding the comment that large iron core and wire is not needed for making the "effect" there is no dispute for the effect can be made for testing by a small device on your table if you want. The generator itself is described in the patent text as follows.

"DESCRIPTION OF GENERATOR OF VARIABLE EXCITACION "FIGUERA"

The machine comprise a fixed inductor circuit, consisting of several electromagnets with soft iron cores exercising induction in the induced circuit, also fixed and motionless, composed of several reels or coils, properly placed. As neither of the two circuits spin, there is no need to make them round, nor leave any space between one and the other."

So the small Y magnets are fixed and motionless and composed of several reels or coils.

What is the length of one reel. 305 Meters or 1000 feet. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reel

Electromagnets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet

If small Y electromagnets are composed of several reels of coils what about the large Inductor electromagnets?

If you want to see the effect on a table, a small table top device is enough. If you want to replicate the device for industrial purposes, then the description that Figuera used in his specification must be followed..Probaly learned friends here know more than him. After all poor man died a hundred years ago and education levels have increased..So he did not know simulation and did not know electronics..If simulation alone can work, then India and China which build Nuclear Submarines and Satellites and ICBMs and Nuclear Bombs can easily build jet engines..But neither country is able to build Jet Engines or aircraft for it requires real hardcore hands on experience and technical know how. That is what Figuera had.

It is easy to do photoediting of drawings but people tend to forget to edit the text describing the drawings..

Some people may study patents for commenting only... Ramaswami does that for a living..Not only that he has taught patents to hundreds of people and 25 of his students are Registered Patent Agents..Some people would not put their money where their mouth is...Ramaswami would put his money where his mouth is and would not just talk but walk the talk...If he has weaknesses he would happilly admit..If he make mistakes he would sincerely apologize..

I'm really so sorry that this is a simple device that can change the world and so many misleading statements are made again and again to prevent people from getting to know this device. This Figuera device works. It can be constructed easily.. I will show a working device after two weeks. If starting without even knowing the difference between voltage and amperage I can modify it without moving parts,and post it open source online, any one can also do this machine off patent now any where in the world. The machine can also be self sustained..But I had been warned that drawing power from the environment that way may result in lightening and I had been told to avoid it. So I have avoided that part alone. This machine produces more output than input.

[MagnaProp]

...I will show a working device after two weeks...

If you could do a step by step build log with images and or video as you construct the device, that would be awesome. Whatever you can show is greatly appreciated. I'm an electronics newb but find the Figuera concept fascinating. Small table top example is fine.

[hanon]

 Sadly, the "reddish line" was not drawn in the 30378 patent since I recovered it from the historical archives of the Spanish Patent Office. It is a pity but that fuc..ing line was not in the patent drawing. It is something that disturbed me from the first moment. Why was that line missing from the patent drawing?. Therefore there are more configurations to test: it is not specified explicitly in the text how the induced is oriented. Ramaswami: you should have think about the red line which is drawn in the other patent (patent 30376). In that patent the induced circuit is drawn. You can check it in the pdf file

Just for curiosity: when I checked the patent archives I could read that during the 1902 patent filing two copies of each patent memory were deposited in the patent office. Today there is just one copy of each patent. The other copy is not there. Historical timeline:  Filing date : 4 Patents filed the 20th of September 1902 ; Reference to the patent sell to the bankers: around the 25th of September. Patent rejection: In October or November (I do not remember) there is an official request for some formal corrections into the 4 patents. As this correction was not done the patent were cancelled for lack of corrections in due date. I guess that as the patent were sold to the bankers (surely with the intention of burying them forever), nobody took care of doing the requested corrections in the patents and therefore the patent were cancelled by the patent office. I suppose that maybe some of the new owners could have ask for the second copy of the patents, and therefore that copy is not the patent archives anymore.