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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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RandyFL

Hello All,
As I look at all the patents collectively... I get the feeling that in Spain or maybe just Figuera and Bujorn were patenting their ideas plus their drawings and of course their apparatuses. I would also imagine that Spain and its offices of patents or however they did things back then... the people involved held Professor Figuera in high esteem... Also I am sure there was pressure on Figuera and His economical partner Bujorn to produce a apparatus that coincided with their paper work... I also understand that Professor Figuera was known in other European Countries and doing work for them as such...so His reputation in His own backyard must have carried a lot weight... meaning when He died they afford Bujorn as much liberty as Figuera's reputation could carry..................

The main point from my point of view is the patent 30378...it clearly shows a dead on look into the main " figuera transformer " the transformers in the patent 44267 show how to effectively deal with the lenz law... the power house in patent 30378 is where the extra power is coming from...12 transformers powering just one " Figuera Transformer " and if you draw ( make it ) like the drawing on Kelly"s web site you have enough energy for the whole block... the red wire is on the patent 30376 and to include it where ever it produces the most electricity ( current )..........BUT... if you draw it exactly like the 30376 and 44267 combined you would have 4 y middle transformers instead of just one...

I think the confusion is looking at the 30378 from a draftsman's perspective instead... if you draw the lines down to the last shape it fits inside the dead on look shape above it...

Lastly... I don't see or read anything bifilar of the Tesla nature coinciding with Figuera... it would state that or it would show that... I just don't see mingling both of them... sorry Rams... that's just how I see it.... I think Figuera stumbled ( maybe not the right word ) on to a unigue way of running a motor to run a dynamo and then the super dynamo to kick in and whatever you want to run.......IMHO

All the Best
PS its correct on the Kelly website... its just not drawn in perspective like the Last set of interpretations

Update... I meant 12 transformers
Its either 1 transformer of 4 or 1 transformer of 12........... either way.... its seems to me a lot of extra power IMHO

NRamaswami

Randy:

I agree that there is no mention of what type of coiling arrangement Figuera used. He has said simply Properly to describe how the coils are wound. That was very confusing. And Hanon has insisted to me that the input was 100 volts and 1 amps and output was 20000 watts. So I tried to reduce the input and what are the methods possible for doing that and accidentally stumbled across that multifilar method.

How did you get to the Number 24 when the patent says that it shows only 8 electromagnets..Please see..

be granted final patent of invention for this generator
whose form and arrangement are shown in the attached drawings, warning that,
in them, and for clarity are sketched only eight electromagnets, or two sets of
four excitatory electromagnets in each,
and the induced circuit is marked by a
thick line of reddish ink, being this way the general arrangement of the
appliance, but meaning that you can put more or less electromagnets and in
another form or grouping


I'm afraid that your understanding of the patents may not be accurate. But how do I know either? It is a guess really in so far as these devices are concerned. It is not clear why the resistor array is there and what it is doing if the amp is just 1 amp and the voltage is 100 volts for the primary. Why send two signals in opposite directions. That is not clear to me. Circuit is also confusing to me to this very day.

The 376 patent is the one where the coils rotated within fixed magnetic cores and that was the machine which made Figuera very famous. It was the machine that ran on its own and converted static electricity from air in to useable electricity as reported in papers. I have studied it and it is not rectangle in shape.  I have even planned to have it built and then avoided it for funding constraints. If some mechanical engineer with facilities were to try it can be built. May not cost much really. The same idea was stated by Tesla in 1889 in his Dynamo Electric Machine Homopolar generator patent. But Tesla being Tesla, avoided the part of self sustaining and indicated it in only one line of the patent text. Both the 376 and the Tesla patent are employing the same principles but in different designs.

There appears to have been two groups of academics one emphasising using Lenz law obeying equipments alone so that the repeated demand and orders will keep coming and one providing a complete one step solution for a long time and no repeat order and make power anywhere in the world. Figuera appear to belong to the later group and I find that there is not even a mention of the exception to the Lenz law rules. I find that every thing is based on Lenz law which is the electrical equivalent of for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Naturally commercial sense won. So we do not not know about this part of the science. Not knowing any thing I want to study that part first.

Nothing to be sorry here.. We all share and split our hair here. In view of my experiments I can say with confidence only one thing. That Properly word in the patent is the key to understand and replicate his patent and who knows it?

RandyFL

I updated the last post...
Here's a picture of a Dynamo around that time period...

Alliance Dynamo

Not that Figuera's turned but I think this picture comes to mind when I see the picture that Figuera produced...

RandyFL

Rams,
If you look at the Alliance dead on it would seem to be just one... but when drawn on its side the perspective changes a lot.

Also...there's 8 rows ( for lack of a better word ) and if each row had eight  N Y S configurations on it times 5 on the Alliance ( 7 times on the Figuera )... One pulse of 100 volts at 1 amp IMHO would achieve a lot of emf s when it finally reached its final destination.

Hence... the 100 volts 1 amp = 12 volts 8.33333333333333333333333333333333 amps  :-) is well with in the possibilities of the BDX53 along with a few Led s to amaze the onlookers....

Lastly... I think the Clemente & Bujorn team knew the problems Tesla had with Macaroni using His patents and hid or confused their patents abit...


All the Best

RandyFL

In 1857 Englishman Fredrick Hale Holmes modified the Nollet dynamo design and used it in the South Foreland lighthouse near Dover, England. The machine weighed two tons and had 120 coils arranged in five rings of twenty-four. The rotor had thirty-six compound permanent magnets arranged on six discs. The output for the light was DC. Ten years later he built another for the Souter Point lighthouse that had 96 coils and eight discs that produced alternating current.

Nollet Dynamo1857