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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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forest

Between 1857 and 1900 there was huge step in advancing dynamos. Do not compare those times !

RandyFL

I'm not comparing apples to oranges...I'm merely stating that Figuera's view from the front is ambiguous and could mean anything...
endless possibilities.

NRamaswami

Randy

I have to agree with you that Figuera possibly might have hidden some aspects of his patent to avoid litigation. That is a real possibility as litigation is always expensive.

For example in the patent he says current would be higher on one side and lower on the opposite side. I came to the conclusion that the rotary device and the resistor array are not needed and AC woud do the same and did it in a simplified way. But what I now see is this. If as stated they gave only 100 volts and 1 amp where was it given? at the Primary coil level or at the rotary device level is not clear. When it went through the resistors one side would have higher current no doubt but the other side would have higher voltate due to higher resistance and lower current. This just struck me. Does increasing the voltage on one of the two primaries with reduced current would have any impact on the output? I do not think any one has discussed this theoretical possibility. Can any simulation be done for this?  One primary has higher current and lower voltage and another has higher voltage and lower amperage. Hanon was also saying that there are two signals in this device created every time. So there may be some thing more to it than that is stated even in the description. Only a perfect replication with properly measured values would enable us to decide that.

RandyFL

Rams,
Even the 100 volts and 1 amp statement is misleading... who stated it, when, where... etc.

As I have stated before... I think your apparatus is more Tesla than Figuera... and I also think Figuera stumbled ( if that's the right word ) onto the casimr effect ( which I think states... that if something is flashed at 300 volts 10 amps you can start it up with less before it dissipates )
Hence... if you saw your apparatus achieve greater than what was introduced... keep working on your apparatus ( in the same way ).

Lastly... I'm imagining the Figuera as 7 NyS in a circle ( or an array ) as you look at the dynamos of that era...

Just thinking...

NRamaswami

Randy:

Hanon has gone through all the patents and he has stated that Buforn states in one of the patents that the input was 100 volts and 1 amp.

I have a question to all generally? Don Smith states that Double the voltage quadruple the wattage. I saw it when the voltage which was 300 volts and 10 amps ( tested on load of 17x200 watts lamps in parallel) (input 3300 watts at 220 volts and 15 amps and output 300 volts and 10 amps) COP=0.91 approximately. One of the forum members checked the meters we used and he is satisfied that we used quality meters.

Lamps were rated to stand only 270 volts and at 300 volts they were exceedingly bright. We then made some more windings of secondary and reached it about 400 volts in no load condition but I was not willing to test it on load.

Actually I have to rebuild the Ramaswami device again. It shows COP>8 when connected to earth. At 620 volts the amp goes up to 20 amps. The one problem I have is voltage combining in all secondaries. I will check it again will all brand new wires. Because in any case it has to be taken the High Voltage laboratory some time in the near future. We will also check it on load with a new board that divides them in to 220 volts. Let me repeat that I myself have some reservations about the device. For one thing it has the disadvantage of Voltages combining some times and refusing to combine among the five secondaries some times. Four of the five secondaries are Lenz law abiding but we have made it reduced lenz law effect. If the COP is not equal to 8 then we need to connect to earth again and take the power from the earth points. We simply do not know why it produces such massive output. Such a reading cannot be attributed to meter error.

Let me again repeat that we have seen that effect only when both the wires are given to two different earth points. High Voltage battery refuses to accept this. They say that for measuing COP they would put it on load proper only. Whether it will provide the result needs to be seen. And whether the it is able to provide the power of 12000 watts when connected to earth and the power is taken from the earth points needs to be investigated as well. So we will do these tests and report.

I think it is possible that when we connected the two points of secondary two wet earth points some thing happened and the output voltage and amperage both increased. Some of the learned friends communicating with me are willing to accept the Voltage but not the amperage but the High Voltage laboratory is willing to accept the amperage but not the voltage. Let me redo the experiment proper and after it is measured by us and measured by the High Voltage laboratory we will present the pictures videos very detailed step by step construction notes. But with all that the glitch is this? Why voltages combine some time and refuse to combine other times..for the same device..If voltages combine it is COP>8 when connected to earth. If Voltages do not combine it is definitely COP<1.  Are we hitting what is called resonance some times and not some other times. I frankly do not know and I donot know any thing about resonance. I have tried to study the books to understand in my spare time but am not able to understand much of it most of the time.

One of the forum members advised me that Magnetics is a least understood subject and there are coils that produce induction when they are not supposed to. Coil types that behave strangely they are not supposed to but the problem is entire electrical engineering is based only on Lenz law. We will rebuild the device again and post it here after 15 days.

Please do not reply to this message. I will not be able to focus on this forum at least for the next 10 to 15 days. I apologise that I cannot resond due to work pressure.

I promise that after the High Voltage lab has tested it we will come back and post all pictures construction notes and layer by layer number of turns, wire size and how many turns in total etc etc and we will put up Videos. I will show the winding pattern by photo and pictures and we will ask people capable of drawing pictures and ask them to draw and explain.

Let me repeat that the COP>8 was when we used the same gauge of wire as a step up transformer kind of device and we had four reduced Lenz law coils and one Lenz law free coil ( I have a doubt whether it is totally Lenz law free when it is connected to four reduced Lenz law effect coils as well) but we have not tested it on load. If testing directly on load does not work, then we have to give it to earth and take from the earth points to the load and test. If that works then connecting a high voltage secondary coil to two different earth points some how has enabled us to tap telluric currents to a small degree and that may well explain the results and the device itself on its may well be cop<1.

I simply report facts. As I tell you again and again I do not know theory. I report what I observe. I also agree frankly I do not understand most of the things.

As far as Figuera is concerned I'm back to where I was for I'm unable to understand much of it. Why a rotating special communtator that sends two signals is needed. Why Voltage was made to increase in one of the primaries and in the other primary amperage was made to increase at that time. Why the winding patterns are so strange. I do not have the answers for these things. Some time I will arrange the actual Figuera replication to be done here and then will share with you what is the result. I have about 350 kgm of iron rods and iron powder and significant wire and we can buy more wire. Let us see. But Please forigve me for the next 10 to 15 days for I need to take care of the time sensitive filings to be done. Thanks for the understanding.