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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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darediamond

When I said Pulsed DC, I meant Direct Current being switched on off Either by a Mosfet or a mechanical commutator. And note this my hounourable Barrister Ramaswani, it's when you use thin gauge like 0.31mm (AWG#27 or #31) to make the Primaries and switch them on and off
at high frequency that you can actually easily make them to consume very low Amperage in the miliamp!
With stationary Generator, High Voltage is the key to attaining Overunity not necessarily high amperage.
AWG 26 maximum Voltage rating is 360V though if you go hingher in turns with it to make an Electromagnet, it can bear upto 1500VDC or more but it will consume so much Amperage when compared to AWG #27 or #30 at such high voltage request.

Generally, multifillar winding is one of the keys to. Attaining Pure Overunity either in stationary (M.E.G) generator or in Rotating Generators. And when you connect the Strands of wires in any multifilar coil in series, then you will not only increase the magnetic strength but also largely decrease the amperage it will bé consuming.

So I will rather use High Voltage (1000V above) instead of low voltage of 220V or 300V to power the Multifilar-wound Primaries.

Now what I only need to know is how to practicaly wind a Coil in Clockwise and Anti Clockwise directions rigth on the winding manchine.

Could you please explain this?
   
Quote from: NRamaswami on December 18, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
Thanks Marathonman for the kind words..I have taken precautions against the electric field but not against the magnetic field. That is the mistake.

The informatiion given to you is correct but your understanding is wrong.

The information given to you probably was like this. P1 is wound CW- Y CW- P2 is Wound CCW.

You therefore think that the identical poles were facing each other. This is why you and Hanon insist that it is NS-Y-SN or SN-Y-NS.

That is not correct.

There are other people who have tried to replicate what I did in this forum and one of them can tell you if he so desires that at 12 to 14 filars of winding for a very low electrical input a very large magnetic field can be produced.

There is another competent experimenter in a First world country who replicated and advised that the voltage is divided in the primary and the Ramaswami device did not work. I also did the same thing and it did not work. I was so completely puzzled. What did we do in 2013. Why the output is coming but why it is lower than the input. The answer is in the email I just sent to this competent experimenter.

The mistake that we did in 2013 was to wind the layers of secondary under the primary as described in the Ramaswami device. The description was given from memory and so I could not understand how the voltage divided and how we got a lower value in secondary output..

In my description P1 and P2 had the currrent going from top to bottom or from Left to Rigth and then return. This causes the voltage to divide in the primaries.  Current Moves like this P1----->Secondary P2---------> The current moves in the same direction in the primaries. P1 and P2 are connected in series. This is what we did and the experimenter reported voltage division.

To the contrary try winding like this..

CW-CW-CCW  (This is similar to the SN-Y-NS that you think was done by the experimenter who advised you)

But this time give the current from the two ends of the primaries. The current should rotate in the same direction in the two primaries. In this case the polarity is maintained as NS-NS-NS for the polarity is determined not by how the coil is wound but by how the current rotates in the coils. If the direction of rotation of current is same then the polarity remains unaltered.

But this time current travels like this.. P1---------> Secondary <------------P2. In this case the current moves to maximise the voltage to double of what is originally given. Instead of voltage division that we saw this time the voltage adds up. Magnetic field strength is increased 4 times or more. Because the Magnetic Field strength curve will suddenly shoot up when the number of Ampere turns crossses a particular range. This happens in this type of winding.

This is the reason for the very high amperage suddenly seen in the wire by us in 2013. In the second case the Magnetic field strength is tremendously increased for the same input and then tremendously decreased. The variation of fulx is very high. Our mistake was to have wound the secondary also under the primary and this resulted in the high voltage and high amperage which made the current unusable. If we limit ourselves to the secondary winding alone the voltage remains at the range of 220 to 240 volts and the current is in the range of 12 to 14 amps. We only need to use higher number of wires in the multifilar coils to reduce the input amperage.

If we use pulsed DC we would need to reduce the input voltage for pulsed DC draws too much of current as the input voltage  is increased. The secondary in the center would still experience a high output voltage and amperage and the voltage is determined by the number of turns of the secondary. This is why Figuera used a battery in 1908 but used a resistor array to limit the current drawn.

It is normally understood wrongly that if the solenoid is wound CW the pole is of one type and if it is wound CCW the pole is of another type. This is  not so. The same CW winding can be used to produce a North pole or South Pole by giving the current from the inside to the outside or from the outside to the inside. Direction of rotation of current changes. This changes the poles. Polarity is determined by the direction of rotation of current in electromagnets.

If we do this the voltage division is now changed by voltage addition. You may test it at your convenience. Giving it to the Earth is not needed. We can give the secondary directly to load. Still voltage will add up and the output voltage is based on the number of turns of secondary. The current is about 12 to 14 amps and voltage is about 235 volts. But it differs slighttly up and down.  But please cover the electromagnet with many layers of plastic. The magnet Ends must also be covered with plastic. If possible allow the air to go but cover the device with Aluminium sheets with i feet air gap present between the Iron and Aluminium. Earth the Aluminium sheet configured like a tank for it will have high amperage and low voltage and it should be earthed. ( Just some wire from from the aluminium to an iron rod fixed in earth would do. Not the Normal Earth connection kind of Earth. If you do not allow air to go to the electromagnet and cover the whole thing with aluminium the magnet may not work. Aluminium will prevent the magnet from getting ions from the Air and the magnet may not work.

But this kind of shielding will ensure that no harm is caused as I'm suffering now even after many months of stopping the work.

One of the reasons that I advised others not to experiment is because we did not understand these points. Aluminium shielding will have higher amperage as long as the electromagnet is functioning and so should not be touched and must be earthed.

You may please check with the experimenter if what I say about direction of rotation of current altering the polarity is correct or not. Then you will recognize that this is how Lenz law was cancelled by Figuera.

We have moved the rods out. About 10% of the rods have become mild permanent magnets. Rest remain pure iron. One Metallurgical professor says that there is a possibility that this has caused the iron to change in to another isotope of iron. But this is rejected by another Professor who insists for an element to move from one isotope to another a lot of energy would be needed. We have not tested the iron internal structure to find these things out. So I may not do these tests again.

But the fundamental principle is you increase the magnetic field strength by providing a lower electrical field and then take out a higher electrical output from the concentrated magnetic field. This is the mystery of the free energy devices. There is nothing more.

marathonman

 For all that is skeptical about my mag amp set up.  i think you might want to see this website experimenting with them. NO power robbing resistors on the power side, just on the control side.

Technically it may be described as a device that controls the AC reactance of a coil by controlling  the permeability of the core in which the coil is wound on.

http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm

Good stuff manard.

antijon

digitalindustry, never looked into it until now, but apparently pyramids make good receivers. http://rexresearch.com/grandics/grandics.htm good luck, and be wary of high voltages.

Hanon, in 30378, he says:
QuoteThe driving current, or is an independent current, which, if direct, must be interrupted or changed in sign alternately by any known method
This implies that he used a driving circuit, which is probably the commutator/variable resistor. Reading the patent, the induced circuit is very confusing, but he may have just wound pancake/spiral coils between the poles.

hanon

Antijon,
You are right. Any kind of commutator should have been used in the 1902 patent 30378. He did not describe it in the patent text but reading the newspaper clips is said that the machine had a kind of governor or regulator. I guess he did not disclose it all in the patent or it was just a basic pulsing system. The greatest difference with the patent from 1908 is that in 1902 he just used one signal to excite all the electromagnets. Also the induced circuit is mentioned to be drawn in the drawing, but it is not there.

Marathonman,
The guy who made that mag amp webpage also has a very interesting video on youtube  https://youtu.be/DBX1-POuJMw

antijon

Hanon, I think it's possible to use only one signal, depending on how it is generated. A physical analogy to a generator would be a magnet spinning over one coil, instead of two coils 180 degrees from each other. Because he includes an air gap, he probably resisted saturation in the core.

One thing I realize with Figuera is that he probably did a lot of experimentation before he developed these designs. If we look at his commutator/resistor, we see that there must be a reason for it necessary to the operation of the device. If he just wanted to convert DC to the AC output, he could have just used a two pole commutator, or switch. The effect would be the same as a push-pull shown here: http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/Amplifiers/amplifiers54.php
Of course we all know the resistance is necessary, I was just thinking. Speaking of, I haven't been able to test your driver yet, but I still think it's a good idea. A small DC bias should cancel the reactance of the AC circuit. I should be able to test it soon, will have more time after the holidays.
Also, I think I will purchase a driver board like this: http://www.velleman.eu/products/view/?country=be&lang=en&id=355404
And use it with transistors and a resistor set, to power a system. A board will be an easy way to control resistor voltage, and it has a variable speed to test increasing frequency versus EMF output. All in all I hope for a simple 12DC control to make it easier to loop.