Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Doug1]

 The number of times the wire turns a turn round a core the greater number of linked flux paths it makes the magnetic field stronger. The length of wire adds resistance with length. The thinner the wire the worse it gets so keeping conductor length short and keeping turns count high can only be done with more conductors. Much more then a few. So that a very small current can make a much stronger magnetic field. Picture it like this, if I can determine the length of conductor based on it's resistance alone for example if 5 ft has nearly no Ir loss but after 5 ft it starts to climb up. Then I would limit the conductor length to 5 ft each. I find I need 3000 turns to reach a maximum flux density in my core at 12 volts. I have to take as many 5 ft lengths of conductor as it takes to make in total 3000 turns. Then I have to decide the best way to wind it or construct the core so I can wind it. There are lots of ways to wind it but what sticks in my head is that little phrase 'those skilled in the art of". Show me a working unit and I will bet that person is the one who is skilled. It's not the inventors problem if you lack the needed skills.
Slapping on a birds nest of wire on a stick is not a skill except for the sake of argument.
The amount of preasure between the inducer magnets is not known. Two magnets facing each other with the same sign pole faces will exert repelling force. What if it turns out to require hundreds of pounds of force to be maintained as the two fluxes move back and forth in the space of the induced? or thousands of pounds of force? How will you choose to make your magnet stronger? You can always make it weeker by reducing current if it is too strong nut after you wind it there is only one way left to increase it.More current.
  The drawn wave image I left you was to show all three coils/inducers and induced. The induced is the coil of the three which reaches below zero and into the negative side of the scale.

  Im going to have to send this part before the storm knocks out the power. At least I wont have to start over from scratch.

[Doug1]

Forgot to answer this "    I still don´t get why you say to use more turns "N"  not in a conventional way. Are you refering to a torus electromagnet?"

   Any electro magnet.

Convention is ruled by economics. They have be able to make a lot of something quickly and cheaply in manufacturing. A 100.+ a plate meal does not come in a frozen box from wallwart. It's made to order with quality food. It most likely is not economical to build in a production setting.

  I found there is study of the electromagnetic field and it's effects on living organisms which has been going on for a good 20 yrs. They use field distortion to create large volumes of space that contain a uniform field. Aside from the health interests is the method to make the space large enough to have a meter size uniform flux that small animals or plants can be placed to perform the tests. Worthy of noting that there are some configurations already studied and measured for us to exploit to gain a better understanding of the orientation of the conductor groupings to yield a desired result. The paper I was looking at was more related to the equipment and how to organize a double blind study by using two spaces and a single power supply to operate both units at the same time. One makes a field the other cancels the field . Helmoltz Kirschvink 1992 pdf.
  Im contemplating there may be use in finding a way to concentrate the field to avoid leakage and to avoid one inducer completely over taking the opposite one magnetically. In order to prevent the activity of a common transformer where flux traverses the entire set. Once turned on it will be hard to determine if that is happening other then it wont be possible for it to self run. With the number of possible reason for failure it wouldnt hurt to consider some of them may be avoidable while giving some better insight to the type of coil winding required.

[Schiko]

@ hanon

Yes hanon now you got there !
Remember I built the machine , I know exactly how it works !
Remember also , my objective is to achieve self-running device. 

Essas palavras são para você Hanon! A maquina de 1908 funciona exatamente como eu já coloquei aqui em postagens anteriores, ela funciona como um transformador de PULSOS já que a polaridade dos indutores não é invertida em relação ao induzido e com os pulsos defasados em 180º a transferência de energia é boa o único problema é que para atingir a máxima transferência de energia você tem que manter a frequência dos pulsos sintonizada com a ressonância das bobinas indutoras, se você fizer indutor e induzido na mesma proporção (1:1) o resultado é excelente.
Outra coisa, a maneira que você propõe, os indutores com a mesma face polar (N.N) ou (S.S) também funciona, mas só se você usar pulsos de 0º, ou seja, sinal exatamente igual nos dois indutores o que se torna mais fácil pois você só precisa de um sinal para alimentar os indutores e basta inverter a posição dos indutores em relação ao induzido para que eles fiquem com a mesma face polar apontadas para o mesmo.
Outra coisa importante é que o núcleo tem de ser fechado sobre si mesmo, de outra forma as perdas são muito grandes e a maquina não funciona bem.
O desenho que está na patente, tanto de Sr. Figuera como Buforn é só um esboço e não deve ser seguido ao "pé da letra" é apenas para se compreender os conceitos de funcionamento da maquina.
Espero que esta palavras ajudem na sua incansável busca...

ps:estou construindo um novo protótipo e poderemos discutir tudo que foi dito aqui.
grande abraço! Schiko

[hanon]

Hi all,

In order to get this device running we need to use two unphased signals, one in each electromagnet.

I have found a system to generate two 90º unphased signals with a very simple method.

A Thomson Ring (in balance atraction-repsulsion) get in the secondary coil a current 90º unphased respect to  the primary current. Later we can take this signal into a diode bridge to rectify it and feed one electromagnet. We could get a signal identical to the last signals which is drawn in the picture from my previous post

http://sdsu-physics.org/physics180/physics196/Topics/faradaysLaw.html

We may get a transformer where the distance between coils could be adjustable in order to regulate the phase shift.

Welding machine: "The intensity control could be done by displacing the coil: It consists on moving away the primary and the secondary"

Link to a paper about the Thomson Ring http://www.journal.lapen.org.mx/march13/3_LAJPE_744_Guido_Pegna_preprint_corr_f.pdf

Any comments? Please tell me if you think that this method could work properly. Thanks

Regards

[Schiko]

@hanon
hanon if you insist on phase 90 degrees will not get nowhere.
The transfer of energy is very low when the waves are at 90 degrees.
Again I repeat, we are talking about the 1908 patent.
It's so easy to get two delayed signals for testing ... try! 

Regards

ps:you have a scope? if not. I post link program that simulates a scope and signal generator that you can use for your tests.
If you want just talk. is freeware.
and how the machine works at low frequencies will work just fine!