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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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ayeaye

Quote from: marathonman on November 11, 2018, 09:30:47 AM
The magnetic fields of the primaries will always be opposing as the Lenz effect will always keep them opposing whether they are increasing or decreasing to maintain the pressure between them. by raising one primary and lowering the other the Electric fields are alligned  as such to be positive and additive  thus presenting the secondary a magnetic field with the same intensity as a north south field of a standard generator.

Yes, the question is whether more current is induced by induction than provided by the Faraday's law. Which i think is always the question about overunity devices based on induction, and the only reason why they might have overunity. When more current is induced, then it has to go somewhere, like to capacitor or other coil.

Only an experiment can show that, simulator cannot, as simulators are strictly based on the Faraday's law. Whether there is overunity or not, no one knows, because no one can possibly know what exactly is going on there.

Thus i think we can create a general theoretical basis for solid state overunity research, this is all based on the same phenomenon.


marathonman

In the Figuera device there has to be load attached to the secondary in order for the device to work.  When the load increases the resistance drops on the secondary and the load allowing more current to flow which in turn sends more current to excite the primaries to produce more potential in the external  circuit then things equalize.  If there is more potential in the exciting side then the induced side is drawing then the secondary feedback to the exciting side will be suppressed  until thing equalize again.
the system only draws what it needs at that time.

Regards,

Marathonman

ayeaye

Quote from: marathonman on November 12, 2018, 10:23:40 AM
In the Figuera device there has to be load attached to the secondary in order for the device to work.

Ahah, so that on the figure below?


marathonman

Almost, the Figuera device is DC driven each output being raised and lowered in complete unison but 180 out from another. also the cores were separated as to stop eddies and hysteresis from degrading the primaries. the secondaries are the only part of the core that will experience eddies and hysteresis.
Ac will not match the high intensity field of a DC electromagnet, that is why your standard generators use DC electromagnets NOT AC.

by using and active inductor Figuera realized he could control the rise and fall of current by raising and lowering the magnetic flux to current ratio which in the circuit is self inductance, the EMF created within the circuit that opposes the original current flow. this is exactly in accordance with Faraday's Laws of Induction that states all that is needed for EMF to occur is a rise or fall of the magnetic field. and in accordance to the Lenz Law it will be in such a direction to oppose the original current flow.

no load on the secondary means no lenz law field generation withing the secondary thus no output will occur.
with a load attached and current starts to flow according to the Lenz a secondary field will form in the secondary and it is this field that is pushed from side to side by the opposing primaries that gives the illusion of motion to the electric field thus inducing motion into the secondary. the primaries sweep this field across the entire length of the secondary which will cross the electric fields created by the primaries which both are in the same direction being positive and additive.......meaning both electric field intensities will equal the high intensity field of a standard generator.
from the sweeping actions of the primaries it induces and AC output in the secondaries flipping it's poles every half rotation.

regards,
Marathonman

ayeaye

Quote from: marathonman on November 13, 2018, 02:44:29 PM
this is exactly in accordance with Faraday's Laws of Induction that states all that is needed for EMF to occur is a rise or fall of the magnetic field.

No, i think for this or any other such overunity devices to work, the induced current must be more than that provided by the Faraday's law. That it is only generated by the rise and fall of the magnetic field, and that it is opposite to the current that caused it, remains true, however.

The diagram above is so that it can be made using a voltage source, and a signal generator, which is easy to do, provided that one has these, and that the input and output powers can be measured with oscilloscope the way i explained in my other thread. In that case it may be necessary to measure separately both the primaries and their resistors, and the load, maybe a bit more to measure, but still doable. More similar to Figuera would be using a pair of transistors, but this would be a bit more difficult to implement, though nothing special, either.

Without such measuring input and output powers, and without any such measurement really showing overunity, all that said about that device will be useless. I'm primarily interested in a unified approach for researching any of such solid state overunity devices.