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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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NRamaswami

Hi:

The answer is in your post itself. You moved the Permanent magnet around the coil with the same face facing each other. The repulsive forces are there. The charges are identical and they oppose each other.  You prevented the magnet from turning and rotated the magnet or just moved the magnet. Then this acts like an induction generator. No doubt. This motion would be opposed by the currents when the develop in the coil substantially. What will happen to the primary. I do not know. But what I do know is that we need to secure the secondary as well as both the primaries well from turning or from jumping up. Even then I'm not sure if the repulsive forces alone are enough to cause the secondary to respond. I really do not know. I'm also worried about security. Each one of the primary magnets would weigh about 90 kgms to 100 kgms along with wires and the secondary would weigh about 15 kgm with wire. I suggest that I restrict myself to the NS-NS-NS configuration as you did not get any result except when you moved the magnet. Check if the magnet is stationary if you get any result. or Create an Electromagnet and then the Neodymimum magnets would be vibrating and at that time show the same pole faces to the bifilar pan cake coil. If it responds then it may respond to electromagnet.

I'm really worried about the magnet. These are large powerful iron core ones and if they suddenly move it can break our legs. I just suggest that you do this with your small neodymium magnets in the way I described above when they are not moving and pulsatig and let us see if we get any results and then let me set this up here and then we can check.


dieter

No matter if you use nsns or snns , you need to move the magnet anyway to get a voltage. Figuera just substituted the magnet motion by stationary electromagnets. The field still needs to be moved.


It cannot be simple induction, there must be something special, some unusual constellation.


In a nsnsns setup, there is nothing special, this is the same as a transformer. Also note: we say snns, but in fact they are not turned on together, but alternating, so it is more like ns  sn  ns  sn  .... But since the alternation is overlapping (aka 90 degrees out of phase), there may be a socket magnetisation of alternating snns nssn snns nssn...
I agree with you about savety tho. Although, even in a nsnsns setup,  things can be shot trough the air when parts break.

marathonman

Man my head is about to pop! :o i just read every post on this subject and i think my brain is sizzling. i am looking forward to Bajac return, love the work he has done. need more core material to do my initial test run. boards are great but i might have to rethink my vitreous resistor set up and bring the NS-SN crossover closer to zero volts.....hmmmm not sure. oh here is a DC two channel board design i came up with "DIP TRACE FREE" yahoo!

dieter

I just made some more small scale tests. One thing is for sure: any air or plastic gaps will dramaticly reduce efficiency of inductive coupling, if inductive coupling is the goal at all.
Since in a transformer primary and secondary coils sit on the same sheetsteel or ferrite core, inductive coupling is high. If in the air a N-N confrontation creates an effective pseudopole (in terms of generator efficiency), then why not in a core?


These gaps just give me way too much loss, so I will try it on a single core without gaps.


BTW. funny thing, I tried all kinds of coils for Y, and one time I added a neodym magnet as the core of Y. Due to some kind of mechanical resonance it went from discrete hum up to a loud rattle and gave me 10 times more voltage than any other setup. So, electromagnets cause a permanent magnet to oscillate inside a secondary coil... and gives best results... weird ... But Amps were still near zero. Considering the setup consumed 20 watts, this is just emberassing. :-[

marathonman

Because of inductive losses are so high i would suggest that your primary cores are twice as big as your secondary core and of IRON. also you should have more windings on your primary as well as higher voltages. try minimizing your gap to paper thin . do what i did ... i read every post on this subject.all 50 + of them...much better understanding of things. just remember the wright brothers crashed and burned many, many time before those nuts got it right. just remember that the next time you fly..........they didn't give up! and also NO this is not a regular transformer. a regular transformer can not get away from Mr. Lorentz but Mr. Figueras with his split core did and took his wife to....ha ha ha!