Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Doug1]

Maverick
  It would not be practical to power each turn separately even if if you could, you can power groups of turns with taps. The long coil can be broken up along it's resistance or length. the current need only be the same per turn with the same number of turns added together for the same length of coil to obtain the quantity of field equal to a long coil with lots of turns and lots of current.The turns are still there, the flux is still there but the input power is far less. Same way with using a commutator and multiple brushes to function as a controllable resistance. look at the number of segments marked out on the figurea's commutator. They start at one and run around to 16 or 17 but there is no place where it shows a segment connected to the center shaft just a pos sign near the center shaft. The circle is drawn with straight lines across the circle. It was normally assumed those lines some how connected the segments but it doesnt make sense because a lot of them are not connected to anything except the one opposite it in the circle if you think the lines connect them together. Look at the circle again, does it not look like a disk or wheel made from flat pieces of material stuck together and cut into a circle with a shaft for it to be spun on? So how would one turn that into a variable resister? You make it into a revolving rheostat or use a rheostat  and revolve the brushes around it. Using a single conductor zig zag or serpentine around the circumference with only one point of contact to the supply on one end of the wire. The block with the coiled resisters enables him to adjust the amount of current going to the inducers so he can even out the strength of the current in the two coils so they will be even when they are in action against each other. One of the tests is the force pushing the magnets apart needs to be equal between the two inducers when they are supplied with equal current at the same time. there wont be any induction in the Y coil when you null out the fields but there will be physical repulsion which can be measured using on old fashion ballistics rig to make the adjustments. Also described in some of the old books as to how to build one.
  I have a lot of resentment for prototypes.Is it easier for you to build tiny versions of something before you build the full size one? That seems very wasteful to me both in material and time. Not everything scales up evenly when your dealing with materials that deal with stress. Its more important you try to find the flaws in what I presented. Then after that is exhausted you can start thinking about the math to determine the materials required to build something of use.Of course you can always wing it if you like to do things that way also. I have no more use for a prototype then I have for a matchbox car on the hood of my actual car.
   

[Doug1]

Maverick you should first determine who's theory it is before you assign it to me.


Last night I found the paper that someone ells wrote a theses on how people learn. In it was how this theory was tested by Joseph Henry first who lived from 1797 to 1878 on how to improve the effects of electromagnet without increasing the length of wire or the current. The writer repeated the experiments to the best of their abilities even going so far as to locate the iron for the magnet from Albany N.Y. at a pig iron factory which had since become a nail and copper sheet factor. It provided enough history to further research the subject. The information was then compared against all other information including the works of all the writers who wrote technical manuals which have been mentioned from time to time in the this thread plus a variety of patents and books I keep in my files.
  I only needed two simple experiments to verify it ,one using a volt meter the other using a ballistic rig to test field strength acting on a permanent magnet with a normally wound magnet and the modified version.  I reused the coils in the final device after modifying one more coil to complete the two required by the patent.
   Does that answer your question.

[hanon]

Doug,

As far as I have understood, you are proposing a method to increase the efficiency to excite the electromagnets without needing the resistors array (and then saving the heat dissipated in those). Am I right?

Are your proposing an electromagnet composed of several independent coils that you are firing sequentially to increase the magnetic field?

In that case you are increasing the efficiency of the input current? It is an optimization. I suppose that Figuera just used the resistors.

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Another subject: In this page, there is a design, by a person named Ignacio, with the induced coil perpendiculary to the electromagnets. Just for your consideration. We should test every possibility.

http://www.electricidadbasica.net/energias-renovables.htm

[nelsonrochaa]

Maverick you should first determine who's theory it is before you assign it to me.


Last night I found the paper that someone ells wrote a theses on how people learn. In it was how this theory was tested by Joseph Henry first who lived from 1797 to 1878 on how to improve the effects of electromagnet without increasing the length of wire or the current. The writer repeated the experiments to the best of their abilities even going so far as to locate the iron for the magnet from Albany N.Y. at a pig iron factory which had since become a nail and copper sheet factor. It provided enough history to further research the subject. The information was then compared against all other information including the works of all the writers who wrote technical manuals which have been mentioned from time to time in the this thread plus a variety of patents and books I keep in my files.
  I only needed two simple experiments to verify it ,one using a volt meter the other using a ballistic rig to test field strength acting on a permanent magnet with a normally wound magnet and the modified version.  I reused the coils in the final device after modifying one more coil to complete the two required by the patent.
   Does that answer your question.

Hi Doug1,

Thank you for your more objective point of view regarding this issue.
The most important thing in my opinion about figuera patent, is to realize that there are more efficient ways to generate current.
The figuera circuit though ingenious, is not 100% efficient Even using this method! Still always had needed a "buffer" to keep the circuit operation can not be considered a overunity device in my opinion.
However we consider that the method shown by figuera, will be able to lead us to other perspectives on how to improve the efficiency of a generator circuit.

In my opinion this patent, in that it is so simplified compared to other patents that use the same technology, facilitates the understanding of the functioning of this concept.
  The method shown here was also described by Tesla, Smith and many others, there may be some differences fine, but always with the same principle.
Above all I am sure it was not time lost everything that was discussed on the subject.

thanks

[hanon]

In my opinion this patent, in that it is so simplified compared to other patents that use the same technology, facilitates the understanding of the functioning of this concept.
  The method shown here was also described by Tesla, Smith and many others, there may be some differences fine, but always with the same principle.

thanks

Nelson,

In your opinion, which is the principle underlining in this patent?

Thanks