Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[kEhYo77]

I re watched the video that you made showing your version on the Figuera...I am sure you have watched " Woopy's version " using the arduino... " He stated that the ghost trace was for free "... A. would you agree with that statement. B. Did you get the same results...or did you get different results. The video that you made was two years ago... C. Have you made any more experiments on your apparatus... Its been stated here, in the forum, that by using the arduino you can get a stronger current... D. Do you agree with that statement... E. have you used a stronger current F. Do you plan to use a stronger current... Lastly what do you consider wrong with the figuera on the Kelly website... 1. Is it missing some secret " ingredient " that He wasn't divulging or died too soon to reveal...and where did you get that ball cap...............  I thank you for your answers in advance....and get back to work on the Figuera!]

Hi RandyFL and All.
The "ghost trace" from Woopy's video is the BEMF of the output coil finding an alternate flux path to close the magnetic loop, and it is not through the EMF core side but the other one that is inactive hence the ghost.
My progress is slow with experiments as the parts, cores etc are quite expensive and I cannot afford frying mosfets. Plus, I am running several projects in parallel. Some times I get distracted for months with something completely diffrent and thera times where I'm just lazy.
My little lab space NOW has enough components, modules and universal building blocks to do various stuff and I want to make things right.
I am more active 'this stuff' during the cold part of the year. Summertime is here in Poland and I live on the Baltic coast so I get sidetracked.
I plan to investigate Figuera more, All I can say is that it looks promising to me.

Thanks TK for helping with troubleshooting the soft and stuff.

[NRamaswami]

I have seen the comments of Hanon..The last Patent of BuForn as we found was the most efficient or best mode of operation of the device.

I'm fairly ignorant and so If I make mistakes it may please be ignored. I'm really not able to understand much of the discussion here.

As I understand electricity is induced when a conductor is subjected to a time varying magnetic field. The time varying magnetic field can be a rotating magnetic field without the core moving as in transformers or by rotating the magnet as in Dynamos and alternators and turbines. Figuera device used a Motionless rotating magnetic field.

As I see it Figuera device used a pulsed DC current input. The positive was split in two halves.. One was made to enter the N magnets from the left hand side as I type it and move towards the right hand side. The other positive was made to enter the S magnets to enter on the right hand side as I type this and to move towards the left hand side.

Our understanding is one was wound CW and other was wound CCW but current was given in one to move from inner to outer and in the other to move from outer to inner. We further understand that the strength of the magnets from N1 to N7 were decreasing while the strength of the magnets from S1 to S7 were increasing. Simply if N1 is the strongest amont N magnets S1 was the weakest among S magnets and so due to this kind of increasing and decreasing magnetic field flux was produced in the center which is between opposite poles and so is immune from Lenz law and the combination of the voltages resulted in the large output reported while the usage of the multifilar coils reduce the current flow to minimum but increased the magnetic field.

I'm not able to understand how my learned friends here can say that they would small cores and would give pulsed DC current to it in 9 amps or 10 amps..What is the voltage you are going to use? What is the number of turns? What is the magnetic field strength you are going to create to make an impact on the central secondary?

Please see here to calculate the Magnetic field strength of a solenoid..

hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/solenoid.html

As we have seen using pulsed DC requires 4 times the wire needed for the same amount of AC wattage. Similarly if you are using Pulsed DC iron gets saturated almost immediately and makes a roaring noise and that can be avoided only by increasing the core size.

I'm not even sure if the learned friends here have used Pulsed DC to create electromagnets..I started without knowing what is Voltage and what is amperage and then I learnt that the weakness is not knowing how to make magnets and so I have learnt to make permanent magnets and electromagnets and I have used DC. Pulsed DC and AC all..Pulsed DC is a beast..It requires massive amount of iron to avoid saturating the core and I do not know if the learned friends who tell me that I do not understand that things can be miniaturized have created electromagnets using pulsed DC..

My understanding is that Figuera has used about 100 watts input and generated about 20000 watts output. My further understanding is that he used pulsed DC whether it is half wave, full wave, interrupted DC..Whatever be the wave form, pulsed DC would require 4 times the same amount of iron and coils that AC requires to avoid saturation.

If iron gets saturated it gets very hot and the system cannot continue. You need to stop. To avoid that if pulsed DC is used large quantity of iron is needed. I could not afford the iron and coils and so elected to use AC and used a large single coil..

I had been criticized for using a large single coil but the advantage in AC is current goes like this ----> 50 times a second and then at the same time it goes like this  <----  50 times every second. So in my coils P1 and P2 alternate in strength every second and the variation in magnetic flux takes place.

If we are to use Pulsed DC P1 will remain stronger always and you need to use multiple large iron cores and the purpose of spliting the positive was to make alternating stronger and weaker iron cores. The patent is very clear. The experience teaches me that without massive quanity of iron and coils that I cannot afford pulsed DC cannot be used.

It is not clear to me how my learned friends are going to defy this nature of electricity and come up with a small device that will replicate the performance of Figuera..I'm really not able to figure it out..Of course my knowledge on electronics is zero. My mentor Patrick Kelly literally tried to hit electronics in to my head with a Hammer and Nail but it would not go in and gave up..But I do not understand what Electronics has to do with generation of Electricity..Really confused here..Please guide..

[hanon]

Quoting another paragraph from the 1914 patent:


" Another advantage is that around the core of the induced electromagnets we can put
another small size induced electromagnet with equal or greater core length than the
large induced one. In these second group of induced an electric current will be
produced, as in the first group of induced, and this produced current will be sufficient
for the consumption in the continuous excitation of the machine, being completely free
all the other current produced by the first induced electromagnets in order to use it in all
purposes you want. "


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Why is required that the induced coil for the self-sustaining to be of equal or greater length than the coil for electrical output ?


I have a theory for this: Maybe the patent require this configuration because both induced coils are having induction done by the flux cutting the wires (as in generators), not by flux linking (as in transformers). If induction is done by flux cutting (as consequence of the moving magnetic fields from one side to the other) then, the coil for the internal consumption of the machine is better to have a longer length to assure a continuous production of electricity, avoiding any instant without wires being cut by the lines of force, as may happen with a shorter coil while the magnetic fields are moving. All this is just my guess. In other case I can not explain why this configuration is required.


Any other ideas?

[RandyFL]

Hi RandyFL and All.
The "ghost trace" from Woopy's video is the BEMF of the output coil finding an alternate flux path to close the magnetic loop, and it is not through the EMF core side but the other one that is inactive hence the ghost.
My progress is slow with experiments as the parts, cores etc are quite expensive and I cannot afford frying mosfets. Plus, I am running several projects in parallel. Some times I get distracted for months with something completely diffrent and thera times where I'm just lazy.

Hello All,

kEhYo77,
So basically what you're stating is... All the energy that has been used and produced is accounted for...the secondary s are receiving the Bemf. That if the primaries are/were wound with 16 awg magnet wire and the secondary s were wound with 14awg magnet wire there wouldn't be large copious amounts of free energy.

Cheers

[NRamaswami]

" Another advantage is that around the core of the induced electromagnets we can put
another small size induced electromagnet with equal or greater core length than the
large induced one.

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So, Hanon the induced Y coil is not a small coil but a large coil with reels and reels of coils as originally disclosed in the 1908 patent. I agree with you that it is placed between the opposite poles to receive the magnetic waves. That essentially means that the N and S magnets are much larger and Y core also should avoid saturation..

While agreeing with your views I believe that the electromagnets N and S were quite large ones.