Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[RandyFL]

I'm not able to understand how my learned friends here can say that they would small cores and would give pulsed DC current to it in 9 amps or 10 amps..What is the voltage you are going to use? What is the number of turns? What is the magnetic field strength you are going to create to make an impact on the central secondary?

It is not clear to me how my learned friends are going to defy this nature of electricity and come up with a small device that will replicate the performance of Figuera..I'm really not able to figure it out..Of course my knowledge on electronics is zero. My mentor Patrick Kelly literally tried to hit electronics in to my head with a Hammer and Nail but it would not go in and gave up..But I do not understand what Electronics has to do with generation of Electricity..Really confused here..Please guide..

Hello All,

Ramaswami,
the only analogy that I can give you is... A. stream in the woods... B. And a concrete dam..............................in the case of the stream high up in the mts. ice is melting one drip at a time... it collects and gravity is slowly pulling it down stream pass the woods past the country side to where it rages as mighty river... on the other hand is the big and mighty damn dam... over time it develops a crack and single drip.....the drip becomes two drips...three drips....4 drips.....etc...... until one day the damn dripping causes the damn dam to give way............................the mighty water causes everything to be washed away........................if you go back high into the mts. you can still see it dripping..............................in the case of the damn dam..............you go past the broken dam way high up to the source of water and you will see it drip drip dripping.........................................................................................

I for one am looking for the damn drip..........

All the best...


Randy

[NRamaswami]

Oh Randy..

That drip sits right before your nose in the form of Air..Lot of electricity is present in air..If it were not for the air that you are able to inhale and the electricity that goes in the form of negative charges in the air to our lungs, none of us can remainn alive.

Since I started from zero I learnt what are the methods of Generation of Electricity..

a. Electrostatic Induction machines - Not used
b. Electromagnetic induction machines (used mostly everywhere) (hydro, Thermal and Nuclear - all use only a turbine that rotates to generate electricity and is subject to Lenz Law)
c. Nuclear Battery ( Not even known - used only in Satellites) - Banned under statutes
d. Chemical Batteries (lead-acid and our normal 9 volt batteries Lithium ion batteries used in cell phones etc)
e. Thermoelectricity using thermocouples - Not used due to inefficient production
f. Photovoltics - Solar Cells
g. Electricity from Sparks -- When different metals constitute the spark plug a type of plasma condition is generated and excess ions are released but capturing it is not that easy and it is not taught in text books. This is not well understood yet.
h. Electricity from water - No one talks about this - Not much of knowledge is there about the subject
i- Electricity from Ground - Earth batteries - Forgotten technology.
j. Diesel and Oil based Generators -- You get it every where
k. Transformers - using rotating magnetic fields but the core itself remains stationary and the electricity is generated by flux linking which is again subject to Lenz law. Used every where. Not considered to be a method of Generation but only as method of transmission. More electricity is given to the transformers in the Primary than taken out at the secondary because current is lost by Eddy currents due to heat generated in the core and so current is lost though transformers remain the most efficient electrical machines. Efficiencies of 99.6% are reported and accepted using very expensive materials.
l. Capacitors - Not considered to be capable of generation but only as resistors placed in series for transmission.

Probably there are other methods but the above the methods of Generation of electricity the main forms investigated over the years.

Most of them use the Electromagnetic Induction which is subject to Lenz law by using a rotating magnetic core which is surrounded by coils. While easy to construct this is subject to Lenz law and requires more input than output. When the magnetic core rotates electricity is generated in the coils and this tends to block the rotation of magnet and so more input energy is needed to get lesser output. This is what is taught in textbooks. This is the root cause of the energy crisis..

Figuera method as Hanon pointed out avoids the Lenz law effect by using the method of flux cutting the lines between the opposite poles. 
It provides less input and claims to take out more output. The Patent itself has gone in to archives to be forgotten but has been brought out by Hanon..So is this really possible? Is this true? If so how can it be done?

If you go through the Ramaswami Power Transformer book and the above the drip will be there before you..I hope you can open your eyes and mind and open the windows and let fresh air and light come in and then you can see the drip immediately right before you..I suggest that you follow the nature rather than putting up artificial constraints.. If you watch catch big fish go to Oceans and don't go to a pond and then say I will wait here till the whale or the big shark comes to this pond and keep fishing in the pond..If you want to catch the big fish, you need to go where the big fish is and that is where the drip is present..

[Fernandez]

You can create a simple motor effect with a magnet, piece of iron and a battery. Take a strong magnet and place the iron on one of the poles. For this you can use a 16 penny nail. Connect the iron(nail) to the (-) side of a AA battery. Take a small wire from the (+) side of the battery and touch the bottom end of the magnet. You will see that the magnet rotates.

In this case two magnetic fields are created in one object. That object is the magnet. The current from the battery slightly distorts the magnetic field from the battery. Prevent the magnet from rotating and quickly introduce and remove the current from the battery the magnetic field distorts and springs back. In this experiment you end up moving a magnetic field with a current.

This effect can be amplified with electromagnets. Build a coil with iron, tire irons work well. Spin a coil on it, start light say 12 vdc. Connect wires to the iron core and pulse the iron core with 12 vdc. Secure the iron core from wanting to rotate, when this is done again you are creating a Locked Rotor effect as seen in a stalled electric motor.

Find a way to get the distorted magnetic field to do work, shouldn't be that hard. Give credit where credit is do.

- Fernandez

[hanon]

You can create a simple motor effect with a magnet, piece of iron and a battery. Take a strong magnet and place the iron on one of the poles. For this you can use a 16 penny nail. Connect the iron(nail) to the (-) side of a AA battery. Take a small wire from the (+) side of the battery and touch the bottom end of the magnet. You will see that the magnet rotates.

In this case two magnetic fields are created in one object. That object is the magnet. The current from the battery slightly distorts the magnetic field from the battery. Prevent the magnet from rotating and quickly introduce and remove the current from the battery the magnetic field distorts and springs back. In this experiment you end up moving a magnetic field with a current.

This effect can be amplified with electromagnets. Build a coil with iron, tire irons work well. Spin a coil on it, start light say 12 vdc. Connect wires to the iron core and pulse the iron core with 12 vdc. Secure the iron core from wanting to rotate, when this is done again you are creating a Locked Rotor effect as seen in a stalled electric motor.

Find a way to get the distorted magnetic field to do work, shouldn't be that hard. Give credit where credit is do.

- Fernandez

Fernandez, Sorry but I do not get to understand your post. Are you suggesting to connect the electromagnets core to a battery? What kind of effect are you looking for?


Thanks

[hanon]

Nobody has say a a word about my previous post, copied below.


How can you use both poles of each electromagnet if you pile the coil as :N--y--S--y--N--y--S--N--y--S   as the 1914 suggest?


Any other option apart from using straight bars cores in all "N/S" electromagnets and "y" coils?




   (====N====) (===y===) (====S====)

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pole                  pole              pole                    pole

I always recall to read the original patent text in detail to look for the right coil placement. It is not fair to read the patent text just partially, or just trying to read what you want to be read.


In the 1914 patent (Patent No. 57955 and filed by Buforn, a partner of Figuera) you can read:


"If you want even greater production you can place the inducers and the induced one
after the other forming a single series in the next way: you place first an electromagnet
N, for example, next another electromagnet S, and between their poles and properly
placed you put the corresponding induced, with this we will have formed a group of
battery as explained before, but now (instead of forming as many identical groups to the
first one as number of induced coils needed) you can place, following the last
electromagnet S, another induced and, after this last induced you can place an inducer
N, following this inducer by another induced, and then by another S, and so on until
having placed all the inducers which form the series of electromagnet N and S.


With this we will have succeeded in using the two poles of all inducers except the first
and the last one of which we will have only used one pole and, therefore we will have as
many inducers as induced minus one, this is, if "m" is for example the number of
inducers, then the number of induced will be "m – 1", which determine a considerable
increase in the production of the induced current with the same expenditure of force."


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Please explain how your proposals may fit (if possible) this coil arrangement.


For me it is clear that all electromagnets are arranged in a linear way (bar core type), as NRamaswani has designed. Therefore you can use with this design both poles of each electromagnets in contrary to the use of just one pole of each electromagnet as in the original 1908 design.


For me it is clear that electromagnets are just solenoids , not any kind of transformer core type. Please open your minds and recall the generator from Hubbard, Hendershot and others where the cores are not forming any king of close transformer.


I attach the partial translation of the 1914 patent (sorry but it is 30 page long and it is too much time for me to translate it completely, more when it is practically a copy of the 1908 design plus some improvements as the ones explained in the translation that I attach)


Regards and good luck to everyone