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Crystal Cell Research

Started by plengo, October 29, 2012, 06:08:15 PM

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plengo

I know. I am impressed myself. They don't sustain that but just the fact I got that in the beginning is amazing. There is something special about the formation of the cell.


I will make a step-by-step video of how to form. It is very simple but dangerous.


Fausto.

b_rads

@plengo, @Allwest:
        It is good to see you are still working on these cells.  I check in once in a while and am always impressed with the direction and results I see posted here.
        Every now and then I see something lying around and do the "what if" game and throw something together.  I still get a thrill when an LED lights up.
        I still have several cells that continue to function with my oldest being 2.5 years now.  Several have been working for a year and longer.  It is still great fun to cast zinc electrodes as I have several in a box just waiting for emergencies.
        Keep up the good work and I sincerely hope you find the perfect combination that will benefit all.  I will continue to check in and observe.

@Stefan:
        Enjoyed looking at yours and Walter Hofmann's archive.  Wonderful that you have saved that work.

Brad S  :)

Allwest

To All

The latest Allwest cell reaches 1.58 volts and 60 Ma

Wait to you see the size of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1syYzVsFX8

Best of luck

hartiberlin

Hi Fausto and Allwest, great success !
Well done guys.

Well my current alufoil-carbonfiber cells died after a few days and dried out and
the NaCO3 ate the alufoil away.

So I will also soon try it with MnO2 on the alufoil side to get rid of the hydrogen there...
It seems the MnO2 which is also in normal carbon zinc batteries at the zinc electrodes
eats away the hydrogen (oxidizes it to water)  which is produced at the metal electrode and thus
it prevents a "cloud charge" of the metal electrode where the electrons are just hindered to go through,
so the cell gets very high internal resistance without the MnO2 oxidizer...

So we need an oxidizer salt at the metal electrode to oxidize the H2 to water and this is what the
MnO2 is doing.

Maybe we can still find a better and cheaper material to do this ?
Maybe also KMnO4 will work even better ?
It seems these battery cells have a lot in common with black power and fireworks chemistry
as we have the same reactions like in gun powder or flash powders oxidizing the metals,
but only working very slowly and give off electrons for the current to light up LEDs and other loads
and not just burning up and making a flash bang as in fireworks...

Surely if we succeed too make the right PN semiconductor layers inside these cells with the right band gap,
we will be able to convert the right wavelength from outside into electrical energy , like heat waves, radio waves,
light waves, etc..

So maybe some of these cells also work on converting just long wave infrared heat waves into electrical power
and thus extract heat from the environment and convert it directly into electricity.

Then it is understandable, why they last longer than pure galvanic cells , which just consume only the
electrode materials in a pure chemical reaction...

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Allwest

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 11, 2013, 12:47:57 AM
Hi Fausto and Allwest, great success !
Well done guys.

Well my current alufoil-carbonfiber cells died after a few days and dried out and
the NaCO3 ate the alufoil away.

So I will also soon try it with MnO2 on the alufoil side to get rid of the hydrogen there...
It seems the MnO2 which is also in normal carbon zinc batteries at the zinc electrodes
eats away the hydrogen (oxidizes it to water)  which is produced at the metal electrode and thus
it prevents a "cloud charge" of the metal electrode where the electrons are just hindered to go through,
so the cell gets very high internal resistance without the MnO2 oxidizer...

So we need an oxidizer salt at the metal electrode to oxidize the H2 to water and this is what the
MnO2 is doing.

Maybe we can still find a better and cheaper material to do this ?
Maybe also KMnO4 will work even better ?
It seems these battery cells have a lot in common with black power and fireworks chemistry
as we have the same reactions like in gun powder or flash powders oxidizing the metals,
but only working very slowly and give off electrons for the current to light up LEDs and other loads
and not just burning up and making a flash bang as in fireworks...

Surely if we succeed too make the right PN semiconductor layers inside these cells with the right band gap,
we will be able to convert the right wavelength from outside into electrical energy , like heat waves, radio waves,
light waves, etc..

So maybe some of these cells also work on converting just long wave infrared heat waves into electrical power
and thus extract heat from the environment and convert it directly into electricity.

Then it is understandable, why they last longer than pure galvanic cells , which just consume only the
electrode materials in a pure chemical reaction...

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan,

Wow! Potassium permanganate is a very good suggestion to use on these cells

Regarding MnO2- I have been trying green copper oxide as a catalyst for hydrogen, do you know anything about that? This comes about naturally in my cells and correlates to the increase in power 

"Surely if we succeed too make the right PN semiconductor layers inside these cells with the right band gap,
we will be able to convert the right wavelength from outside into electrical energy , like heat waves, radio waves,
light waves, etc.."
Glad to see! That is exactly where I am trying to head with my cells right now, especially the dry cells, they seem to be in the category of a galvanic and thermal electric device, I have also successfully added a Pyro electric component, the next being adding a piezo  component to the cell

Thinking of using LITHIUM TANTALATE until I read the MSDS sheet

Best of luck