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MarkE

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on May 16, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
Apropos:

Isn't that odd: The Stepanov setup (claiming OU) consists of two transformers and two capacitors, meaning two oscillation frequencies - like a two-stage oscillator.

Now should I believe here in an odd coincidence? ::)
There is a constant parade of people who make false overunity claims.    All real capacitors are lossy.  All real inductors are lossy.  Loss * loss = more loss.

MarkE

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on May 16, 2015, 08:44:05 AM
What convinces me is, that there is proof that science is not interested in any free accessible energy source. That proof is the Finsrud »perpetuum mobile« standing around in a museum in a glass cabinet instead in a scientific laboratory in order to find out its operating principle. Or I'm wrong? Did someone hear anything in the mass media about the Finsrud »perpetuum mobile«? Actually that thing should be on all headlines. Instead it is »hidden« in a museum like some age-old machinery e.g. the first telegraph.

Strange isn't it?
Finsrud has built what amounts to a big clock.  Do you think that wristwatches or grandfather clocks are free energy machines?

Red_Sunset

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on May 16, 2015, 08:44:05 AM
What convinces me is, that there is proof that science is not interested in any free accessible energy source. That proof is the Finsrud »perpetuum mobile« standing around in a museum in a glass cabinet instead in a scientific laboratory in order to find out its operating principle. Or I'm wrong? Did someone hear anything in the mass media about the Finsrud »perpetuum mobile«? Actually that thing should be on all headlines. Instead it is »hidden« in a museum like some age-old machinery e.g. the first telegraph.
Strange isn't it?

Zeit,
Not really, not strange at all,
Finsrud is an amazing gismo, you have to make a differentiation between something that is able to maintain a fine line energy balance .. versus .. something that is able to deliver energy out.
Finsrud is able to balance the "in & out" energies very well due to a well crafted and loss free mechanics. 

If you could put together a motor or device (like Finsrud) that is only able to rotate unassisted, it is still no proof of OU.  It only proofs the perfect balance between energy in & energy out, achievable if you can minimize losses to near zero. 

If you put a motor together that can drive a load, let it be small load but decisively takes it OUT of the realm of perfect balance, you would have the winner.  Even if the device would require an input, it should tilt towards "energy out" in a direction that is decisively more than "energy in".
Most OU projects have problems in this latter instance where measurements can be very deceiving. This problem could be overcome by looping output to input so that no external energy input source is needed.  You can question why Milkovic never demonstrated this loopback, it should have been possible to loopback mechanically, directly or indirectly.

Believe me if you can indisputable demonstrate a device that clearly outputs 1 watt only,  with no input and you are able to put some working theory validation behind it.  You bet, the whole world will be walking your door flat for better & worse !
I don't believe that science or the world is not interested. (sure not interested in fakes which are available in abundance)

Red_Sunset

Red_Sunset

Quote from: MarkE on May 16, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
There is a constant parade of people who make false overunity claims.    All real capacitors are lossy.  All real inductors are lossy.  Loss * loss = more loss.

Mark,
I would add to this my money purse, this thing is getting more lossy as time goes on
Who cares about overunity energy, an overunity purse would be a better invention
Red_Sunset

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: Red_Sunset on May 16, 2015, 01:57:43 PM
Finsrud is able to balance the "in & out" energies very well due to a well crafted and loss free mechanics. 

I don't think so. Just the rail with the ball running in circles would be the most loss free mechanics. Each additional piece of mechanic creates additional losses. When the ball circles the track 14 days on the complete machine, then just the ball and the rail should make the ball circle the track even longer. There is no part visible on that machine which could store energy for two weeks (like the spring of a clock).

Quote from: MarkE on May 16, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
There is a constant parade of people who make false overunity claims.    All real capacitors are lossy.  All real inductors are lossy.  Loss * loss = more loss.

And there is a constant parade of people who make false claims about physics (like comparing pendulums with motor driven vibrators), in order to explain away things, which cannot be explained away.

Quote from: MarkE on May 16, 2015, 01:50:02 PM
Finsrud has built what amounts to a big clock.  Do you think that wristwatches or grandfather clocks are free energy machines?

I'm still waiting for an explanation how Milkovic can power nine generator flashlights at once with the power of his little finger. Those statements above do not contribute much to that.

And why do I have the peculiar feeling, that some people here want for all one is worth distract or derail the forums? Are someone here too close to the truth already? 8)