Bedini, Lindemann, Bearden, Dollard -- What are their Accomplishments?

[CuriousChris]

Except from Eric Dollard, the credibility of the those fellows at EnergeticForum is questionable.


However, that should not discourage us from pursuing overunity. Overunity is a fact and was taught by eminent people such as Tesla

I have only watched one old video from Dollard. A very interesting video, in one part he was talking about DC transmission and he showed an example of it. Sadly from that video one could discern he did not understand the difference between current flow and voltage potential. he kept insisting that the electrostatic voltmeter he was using was showing current flow. (of course I understand to drive the meter their must be a minute amount of current flow). I started losing interest in him at that point.


Now on to one of the biggest mistakes blindly perpetuated by believers in OU

"Overunity is a fact and was taught by eminent people such as Tesla"

Tesla experimented with OU,  but Tesla found OU was impossible. From that point forward he no longer entertained the concept. If I recall correctly the mind experiment he performed was the perpetual waterfall. At the end of that MIND experiment he declared in his writings he no longer believed OU was possible.

So don't accuse Tesla of teaching OU. He entertained it that's all.
Don't forget he also believed in Martians! And while he could test OU he couldnt test the martian theory so that to my knowledge remained.

CC

[Qwert]

Overunity is a fact and was taught by eminent people such as Tesla, Moray, Figuera, Gray, etc. I also have seen third party certified test report for some of the devices including the EV motor from Gray.


Thanks

Can you, guys show me where exactly Tesla taught that overunity is possible?

[Ein~+ein]

Can you, guys show me where exactly Tesla taught that overunity is possible?

That doesn't seem likely given the direction Tesla's interest took him.  Unless you're a 'suppressionist' believing Tesla's lab was destroyed to threaten him against further OU research, you'll need to ask yourself why he abandoned OU devices (generation) in favour of wireless electrical transmission.  Is there any evidence he even tried to promote such devices for rural or remote areas. 

As for the possibility of OU, if (dark) energy and matter can indeed come from nothing, as argued by physicist Lawrence M. Krauss in his recently published A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing, then isn't OU at least a theoretical possibility?

[baroutologos]

Can you, guys show me where exactly Tesla taught that overunity is possible?

Hello guys,


If i may speak, from the few Tesla books that i have read, it clearly said that indeed Tesla chased after the making of an Overunity device. He says particularly that Lord Kelvin has formulated a law that prohibited that to happen in non-anime mechanics (implying perhaps that anime organisms maybe have some sort of OU?) and he tried to bypass it.

Tesla refers some expamples as where such devices should be made of, (thermocouples, minerals, sun or wind etc) Particularly he assembled a mechanic apparatus that he says that time was well underunity but strived to perfect it though  with no signs of overunity still. If i understood well it had to do with exploiting ambient heat as a peculiar heat pump.

In the same booklet he illustrates the example of the an empty vessel sunk in a lake, and says if we manage to remove the inrushing water somehow, maintaining steady difference of pressure then we would have an OU device. I supposed he tried to do so with heat but as he says unsuccessfully. At leats at that time.

Tesla moreover theorized the possibility for OU creation from gravity or magnets as soon as a material or mechanicm was devised to "mask" the gravity force at will.
Neverthelss, he nowhere mentions the making of energy out of ambient environment with a device as we picture it. i.e. compact, high power, etc

[Zzap]

Tesla formed his theories correctly based on the standard principles that OU does not exist.  He stated so in his conclusions.  His goals of perfection were always to obtain near 100% efficiency in all his work preventing anyone from patenting a better device.

Power companies go through great lengths and expense to keep the power clean but it never fails and you will always find someone who thinks you can inject and combine harmonics and magically get OU.  Basic wave theory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEevfOU4Z8 proves that the power company is correct.

If you want a good laugh look at devices like Donald Smith, tpu, magic motors and hho as these people have presented them and, well, let me put it like this, I bought a couple futures contracts in copper.  Figured I may as well make a couple bucks from it too!  LOL

Now I may be incorrect about Aron, and feel free to correct me, however it seems to me he is the guy who thinks that if you release a ball all those bounces before it come to rest equate to OU.  "failure to calculate", or calculate correctly which ever applies.

Most of these guys go off the deep end in their theories.  I read Beardens work and never him a second thought, Lindemanns magic motor, never gave that a second thought, Smith and tpu, got a good gut busting laugh out of those two, and Dollard, well if someone just needs to follow a guy who hates society and is a victim of his own devices Dollard, though he makes a lot of mistakes at least has some of his theory correct.  Just dont make the mistake of challenging him or he will call you every name in the book!  LOL

Unfortunately literally everything that is labelled OU today (that I have seen) is failure to properly measure their devices.  People buy sometimes very expensive equipment and never bother to read its "accuracy" limitations.  I have even taken the time to try and help people by explaining how to properly measure their devices and simply do not waste my time anymore. 

Like many others, I am not happy with the way mainstream scholastic programs have been presented and their failure to at least recognize and give credit to people like Tesla  but when I see people out here who think they have had a revelation from God with their discovery of mutual induction, I am thankful we have mainstream education.

So when it comes to OU, Tesla, from my  understanding, he believed that you could use a little energy to trigger a large energy event.  His problem was finding an infinite source of fuel.  Not real glamorous, no fireworks.

We do this all the time, say for instance we use a spark to ignite fuel in our heat devices, the automobile engines.  The problem is constantly refilling the tank with fuel.  Tesla believed an infinite fuel supply existed and that man should be able to tap into it.

So Teslas' approach was not to obtain OU, but discover an infinite reservoir and then design a low engery system that would trigger high energy output and exploit it to the benefit of of mankind.

I did not post this to thwart experimentation, I used to have lots of fun and occasionally still do build projects.  In fact should anyone build something that shows good potential I will build it and design a test station if necessary to properly measure it.  I have not see anything as of yet.  I just feel that people should at least have a minimal foundation to start from, and simply winding coils and hooking up thingie-magiggies is not a very good foundation to tackle the most difficult problems that have eluded even the most educated minds over the centuries. 

I personally enjoy Lewins lectures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsWDUqJQcpk  He gives people a solid place to start and everything he lectures about is reproduce-able experimentally.  Here is Richardson from Cornell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gOh39IyPM which better applies to what people get into here as he uses spark gaps in a couple of his demonstrations, and I dont know who did this at MIT but this is how a capacitor works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg  and also transmission line antenna analysis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dM7H1perc&list=PL0925FD10648D664E

That said I really do not post much anymore on any of these OU boards because from my experience most OU experimenters seem to be more interested in the amazement of their mysteries, dreams and hopes than following reality. 

more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_-RqkYatWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmMFog10D0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDX85ZK14Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfUuwnD2-fg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtcVtmkDXLk

The interesting and credible thing about Tesla is that he always came back to empirical reality.