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Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market

Started by ramset, September 10, 2013, 08:40:14 AM

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tinman

Hi FarmHand
My goal is not to show how much air is moved per watt.
My only goal is to show a motor that can do the same(or more) amount of work as the keppe motor,using the same load as they do. NO P/out, just P/in for a fixed load of the same value.
This is to show they have nothing that the average back yarder couldnt build in a day-afer claiming that it took them years to develope the tech.
Once i have show this beyound any doubt,i will contact the company that is producing the fan's,and sell them mine-after i have shared and flooded the net with my finding's.

Im here to put an end to there bullsh-t ,nothing more,as im sick and tired of these peddlers and there no thrills devices scaming the average person. >:(

lancaIV

Why so angry,tinman ? ::)
I know that your wish is the competition between the Keppe-or other-motors and your rotary transformer !
And to show them/us that YOUR WORK IS EQUAL GOOD IF NOT BETTER !
But nobody is here promoting an "end of pipe"-technology !


So there is a great advantage to have a great market to optimize the efficiency of all electric appliances/machines and to save natural ressources ( and nerves ;) )!
Take it easy -do not worry and do not hurry up the progress-
for someones months and weeks are nothing compared with decades of solution research and development trials !

Sincerely
              CdL


lancaIV

Hello Farmhand,
the way to optimize the efficiency of all electricity converting machines is to know how
this micro-/nano sphere process works- that is right !


About this we have these pre-thinker like Tesla and Russell/Schauberger and some other more but the theory only does not change the situation -we need the practical tests and based by this knowledge constructing the prototypes and then the working out from plans for the DIY !


I think that the most part of the energy/power saving are "duty cycle" related,this
technology (included the NASA/Nola-controler) at first used by stepper motors and today promoted as variable speed/frequency drives.


The russian Prof.Kanarev showed this in a theoretical(maths) way and then practical manner as motor-generator concept.
http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers-Mechanics%20/%20Electrodynamics/Download/2349

http://pesn.com/2010/10/13/9501712_Kanarev_announces_self-running_motor-generator/motor-generator.htm
Especial attention:                          ( 7 ) and ( 8 )  :
                              question: only special or common knowledge ?

     From                 V(oltage)    X                 A(mpere)
     to                      V(oltage)   X   pulsed    A(mpere) 
     finally
                 pulsed  V(oltage)    X   pulsed    A(mpere)

Here is the "syntax error" between VDC(without Hz) and VAC(fixed Hz)  and

                          now the:  pulsed VDC(variable Hz)

FM=frequency modulation and AM= amplitude modulation ergo radioactivity ;D


Probably the magnetic coil invention http://www.seanicviewinc.com/ can deliver what they are estimating ! (Then as part of a resonant charging circuit 8) )

Sincerely
             CdL

Farmhand

Quote from: tinman on September 14, 2013, 04:51:56 AM
Hi FarmHand
My goal is not to show how much air is moved per watt.
My only goal is to show a motor that can do the same(or more) amount of work as the keppe motor,using the same load as they do. NO P/out, just P/in for a fixed load of the same value.
This is to show they have nothing that the average back yarder couldnt build in a day-afer claiming that it took them years to develope the tech.
Once i have show this beyound any doubt,i will contact the company that is producing the fan's,and sell them mine-after i have shared and flooded the net with my finding's.

Im here to put an end to there bullsh-t ,nothing more,as im sick and tired of these peddlers and there no thrills devices scaming the average person. >:(

Yeah Tinman, Sounds good, I was referring to how I assumed they measured the efficiency at 4 x the regular fan, that is still not clear to me. I get what your intentions are.
What I don't get is how they got to determine the keppe fan is 4 x more efficient than the regular fan. The only way it could be fair dinkum in my opinion is if they compare air moved per Watt over the entire RPM range of both fans, or used the same fan blade for both. Here's the thing a regular fan has control to adjust the speed and increase or decrease the input. If only a small amount of air movement is needed the fan can be used on low power. Can the keppe fan be adjusted. My opinion is let them sell it then get sued when or if people find out it's untrue. But I support you.

I guess I'm asking those promoting the keppe fan to give proof of this 4 x efficiency compared to the regular fan. Or at least explain the test and measurement protocol they used to ascertain that figure. Truth is if they did not use the same fan blade for the purchased fan as they did for the keppe modified fan then they surely must have done "air moved measurements". If they did not compare air moved per Watt the determination would not be valid and even somewhat misleading.

As well if they cannot show over 100% efficiency I don't think they have any grounds to claim a new source of energy is being utilized.
They need to provide some evidence of the presence or utilization of any extra energy utilized over and above the input energy.

I don't see any reason to believe it. Unless I am missing something that is.

Cheers

tinman

@FarmHand
Spot on-couldnt have put it better myself.
It seems that those who wish to peddle a product,always come up with some new energy source or theory as to where the extra energy is comeing from. My question is-what extra energy???.

And for those that think im angry-too bloody right i am,as it's not about making the world a better place,it's about lineing there pockets by way of BS.
I guess TK may know the feeling some what,after the rose OU circuit saga. But he stuck to his gun's,and things are now how they should be.
So do we just say-oh well,some one is getting rich by way of lies,or do we expose them for what they realy are?.

So my next step is to source an old celling fan(standard blade) and see how many RPM we can get that blade to spin for 10 watts.If we can get 200RPM with a standard blade-then keppe has some questions to answer.