Building a self looping "SMOT"

[MileHigh]

Some colour commentary.

Perhaps that example of the old trick of putting a magnet under the table attracting and catching a metal ball that's rolling around on the top of the table is easier to look at.  That's identical to the ball rolling up the ramp and assuming no hole to fall through, it ends up stuck at the center of the "sticky spot."  In both cases you end up with the metal ball stuck in the center of the "sticky spot."

In both cases above the ball is now at the bottom of a magnetic potential energy well.  It's in its lowest potential energy state and you have to do physical work to move it from that spot.  As you move the ball away from the center spot you do work to make it move.  The energy you expend to make the ball move becomes the magnetic potential energy of the ball.

People must understand this concept to understand why the two inclined tracks in the video clip will never work.  For people that are getting it, they should be starting to see the light.  With the inclined tracks at right angles you lose most of the kinetic energy that is in the ball when it gets to the end of the track.  That leaves the metal ball at the bottom of a potential energy well, and no magic source of energy to get it out of the well.

Like I originally stated, when the ball drops through the hole at the end of the track it simply leaves the magnetic environment entirely.  The second track may as well be 10 feet below, it's a separate track with it's own magnetic environment that has almost no relation to the first track's magnetic environment.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Chet, TK:

That JL Naudin experiment is absolutely wretched.  I hate these moments when people that are supposed to have credibility in the realm of free energy produce junk.  The problems with significant figures and eyeballing distances are irrelevant - the experiment is totally flawed, pure junk that doesn't even make sense.  I may post about it in a day or two.  The sad thing is I am probably not going to be the first one that has mentioned these issues but people will keep on referring to it in the future.  I bet you nearly nobody will even acknowledge it when I explain how bad things are.

Tinman:

So to have a SMOT work in a loop,would not violate any laws of physics. What it would mean,is we have worked out how to use the energy stored within the magnet.

This is an incorrect statement.  The notion of "using the energy stored in a magnet" until the magnet "runs dry" is pure fiction and I know many people believe it.  If you can understand my previous postings about the ramp experiment you will be making progress.  It's important to understand the energy dynamics of magnets if you are going to try to make a SMOT, which should really be called a SMUT, but that's a bad word acronym.

MileHigh

[tinman]

Chet, TK:


Tinman:

This is an incorrect statement.  The notion of "using the energy stored in a magnet" until the magnet "runs dry" is pure fiction and I know many people believe it.  If you can understand my previous postings about the ramp experiment you will be making progress.  It's important to understand the energy dynamics of magnets if you are going to try to make a SMOT, which should really be called a SMUT, but that's a bad word acronym.

MileHigh

MH
We will have to agree to disagree on this. What is to say my understanding of magnets and there properties is incorrect,and yours is correct.
Do a simple test,like i stated above. Take a PM DC motor,and replace the PM's with blocks of iron or steel of the same size and shap as the PM's. The motor will have less power output than it had with the PM's in place. So where dose that extra energy come from when the PM's are used in the motor,when useing the same P/in as we did with the iron blocks?

I also dissagree with your statement that a steel ball is never repelled by magnetic field's-as i know through experiments that this is not true. When a steel ball is placed between two magnets with like fields facing each other,the steel ball is pushed out of that field,as the ball carries the field of the magnetic poles closest to it. So now we have 3 like fields all apposing each other. As the two PM's are fixed in position,and cannot move,the ball that can move is forced away from the magnets-i have done the test that show this very clearly. It is the same as placing a steel bolt on one end of a magnet-we know the bolt will carry that field.

In time you will see why i stand by what i believe to be true,as not all has been shown yet.

[JouleSeeker]

Tinman:

I also dissagree with your statement that a steel ball is never repelled by magnetic field's-as i know through experiments that this is not true. When a steel ball is placed between two magnets with like fields facing each other,the steel ball is pushed out of that field,as the ball carries the field of the magnetic poles closest to it. So now we have 3 like fields all apposing each other. As the two PM's are fixed in position,and cannot move,the ball that can move is forced away from the magnets-i have done the test that show this very clearly.

Thanks for these experiments, Tinman.  As always, "experiment always trumps theory".
That's how we find out, through experiments.

[ramset]

TinMan

The credibility that an actual experimenter [Like yourself] brings to the table is priceless.

Just a few of the experimental observations you have mentioned in the last few posts on this topic would seem able to manifest  something the world has never seen ?

TK
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I'll bet Chet won't award his prize to me..........

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Its not "Chets Prize" !
All manner of men will be contributing ,One group in particular
"The League of extraordinarily Benevolent But terrible businessmen "  Is still on the fence,
if they get involved the prize could go through the roof.

and  yes Tinsel of course you would be awarded a prize,as a show of good faith I bear gifts for you.

thx
Chet