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How to make multiple Kicks

Started by Neo-X, November 23, 2013, 10:31:20 PM

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cheappower2012

Hoopy
The small tpu's only appear in an investor video ,so there is no issues.
Jack Durban said the investors brought with them electronic experts
to look at the big tpu no fraud was found.

Farmhand

But who is Jack Durban ? And why should we trust what he says ?

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Hoppy

Quote from: cheappower2012 on December 06, 2013, 04:19:03 AM
Hoopy
The small tpu's only appear in an investor video ,so there is no issues.
Jack Durban said the investors brought with them electronic experts
to look at the big tpu no fraud was found.

Was there a written report produced from the electronic experts for both the small and large ones?

Hoppy

Quote from: Farmhand on December 06, 2013, 04:31:06 AM
But who is Jack Durban ? And why should we trust what he says ?

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If I was SM, I would have reinforced belief by putting a Jack Durban in my plan!

Farmhand

Yep me too Hoppy, sounds like a plan ! Looking at the quote from Wiki below about long con tricks then Jack would come in at about the "Hurrah" stage, he could also be a "convincer" as well, and some of the "investors" could also be "convincers" and part of the "In and in". He could also be maybe a corroborator with the aid of the shill "investor" "convincers" and "Shill electronics experts" as well. Possibly the top shill himself. Magicians often use shills and similar techniques to do much more elaborate displays. So it is entirely possible. The "approach" and "Build up" could be done through the internet as well as other ways. Who knows. Who is who really. How do we know SM is not still posting anonymously ? Trying to get more dime or just for fun.

QuoteIn Confessions of a Confidence Man, Edward H. Smith lists the "six definite steps or stages of growth in every finely balanced and well-conceived confidence game."

"One follows the other with absolute precision. In some games one or more of these acts, to use a theatrical comparison, may be dropped out, but where that happens the game is not a model one. The reference to the stage is apt, for the fine con game has its introduction, development, climax, dénouement and close, just like any good play. And this is not the only analogy to the drama, for the scenes are often as carefully set; the background is always a vital factor. In the colorful and mirthful language of the bunko man, all these parts of the game have their special names. I give them with their definitions:

Foundation Work
The preparations which are made before the scheme is put in motion, including the elaboration of the plan, the employment of assistants and so forth.

Approach
The manner of getting in touch with the victim—often most elaborately and carefully prepared.

Build-up
Rousing and sustaining the interest of the victim, introducing the scheme to him, rousing his greed, showing him the chance of profit and filling him so full of anticipation and cupidity that his judgment is warped and his caution thrown away.

Pay-off or Convincer
An actual or apparent paying of money by the conspirators to convince the victim and settle doubts by a cash demonstration. In the old banco game the initial small bets which the victim was allowed to win were the pay-off. In stock swindles the fake dividends sent to stockholders to encourage larger investments are the pay-off.

The Hurrah
This is like the dénouement in a play and no con scheme is complete without it. It is a sudden crisis or unexpected development by which the sucker is pushed over the last doubt or obstacle and forced to act. Once the hurrah is sprung the victim is clay in the schemer's hands or there is no game.

The In-and-In
This is the point in a con game where the conspirator puts some of his money into the deal with that of the victim; first, to remove the last doubt that may tarry in the gull's mind, and, second, to put the con man in control of the situation after the deal is completed, thus forestalling a squeal. Often the whole game is built up around this feature and just as often it does not figure at all.

In addition, some games require what is called 'corroboration', which means what it says. This is important in games where a banker or other shrewd customer is to be the victim."

I just want to say I tried to always use terms such as maybe and could have ect. so I am not making any accusations just saying what I think might have happened.

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