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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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picowatt

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 09, 2014, 10:51:37 PM
@picowatt:

Thrapp has said that the exciter coil / spark gap stuff is only necessary for the first couple weeks of operation, to "condition" the device. Once that has been done these parts can be removed, they are no longer needed.

I am not kidding.

So maybe the device Timmy showed in those old videos had already been properly "conditioned". Uh-huh.


On the other hand, you need a good Red Herring to link this thing to Tesla, somehow, and what better way than to put in an aircore coil and a spark gap! Instant Tesla!

Well then, should not at least one of Jamie's builds be "conditioned" by now?

Now that Jamie has returned to Pa., maybe he will show everyone the unit he has there doing what he claimed it could do.

PW

TinselKoala

Quote from: picowatt on July 09, 2014, 11:06:02 PM
Well then, should not at least one of Jamie's builds be "conditioned" by now?

Now that Jamie has returned to Pa., maybe he will show everyone the unit he has there doing what he claimed it could do.

PW
I don't recall seeing them using the coil and spark gap.
But as far as the unit in PA goes... as I have shown, in the interview with Sterling on PESN he tells the truth (sort of) about the PA Prototype.
1. It was never "run" for 150 hours. It was _driven_ for perhaps 1.5 hours, many times, in the "resonance mode", and James estimates a total of about 150 hours being driven in that mode.
2. The _peak_ power measured by clampon meters, DMMs and the oscilloscope was a bit over 9 kW and the _average_ was "probably" between 4 and 5 kW. Although he did not say so specifically I think we know that he is referring once again to peak-to-peak readings multiplied together and not the true "average power" which is Vrms x Irms -- just as they have done with all subsequent "OU in VARs" claims.
3. No... James specifically says the unit never actually ran itself.  He complains about building it in his barn, not having the necessary inverter, etc etc but after all the hemming and hawing is done the fact remains: they "released" this device to the "public" based on the "resonance" and misinterpretation of their measurements and the device _never_ in fact produced any OU or ran itself.

So in order to show everyone that the PA prototype does what _he_ claimed, all he need do is show the Resonance and some bulbs lighting up, and some squiggly colored lines on the scope. He really never claimed anything more than that.

When HypeGirl said the thing "works" and had "run for 150 hours" she was deliberately trying to give the impression that she meant "self running while producing extra power output" which is the usual meaning of "working" and "running" in our community. Isn't it? However this was clearly not the case and James himself told us so in the interview. Nothing that has transpired since has trumped that set of statements from JR. And the problems that caused them to be unable to make the PA Prototype "work" remain: the thing has never made any OU and never will, so all efforts trying to make it self-run are futile.

PCB

The Florida QEG folks just posted these two videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2bCM90Yms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSqXRVuXpFY

From: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/475-myths-about-reactive-power-in-resonant-circuits

It interesting, he passes the output from the primary through a transformer, which is akin the secondary is doing of coarse, to convert VARs to Watts. He references this paper:

http://be-do.com/media/kunena/attachments/772/DispellingMythsAboutReactivePowerinResonantCircuits.pdf

Bolt: You might find the above interesting. I have several large 3 phase motors, around 20 HP. I also have one as a generator set (25 HP 3ph motor that drives a 15 KW gen that outputs at 120 Hz). What can I do with these? Would you consider posting a pdf of your circuit and setup info.

TinselKoala

Quote from: PCB on July 10, 2014, 12:03:26 AM
The Florida QEG folks just posted these two videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2bCM90Yms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSqXRVuXpFY

From: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/475-myths-about-reactive-power-in-resonant-circuits

Clearly there has been a lot of effort done by those folks. But..... are they actually competent?

Six light bulbs glowing dimly as the load? AC coupling shown on the scope channel? What exactly is the Hall sensor doing? Certainly not providing a trigger signal for the scope! What is that _battery_ doing there?  They think they need a 1000x HV probe because their voltages are so high, and the guy is gesturing around in there and touching stuff randomly with his bare fingers?

I swear, my presentations of frigging JT waveforms on my 2213a are better than these fancy DSO users give.



PCB

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 10, 2014, 12:16:57 AM
Clearly there has been a lot of effort done by those folks. But..... are they actually competent?

Six light bulbs glowing dimly as the load? AC coupling shown on the scope channel? What exactly is the Hall sensor doing? Certainly not providing a trigger signal for the scope! What is that _battery_ doing there?  They think they need a 1000x HV probe because their voltages are so high, and the guy is gesturing around in there and touching stuff randomly with his bare fingers?

I swear, my presentations of frigging JT waveforms on my 2213a are better than these fancy DSO users give.
I think we see in the videos that again this device is very inefficient. Now he looks to be using only one of the primary coils, but even so that output looks to be quite low. I'm interested in the transformer idea. I'm not real sure how this works. On the one side we have a mechanically driven oscillator, which feeds into a transformer. I would assume that the C must be adjusted as there are now two parallel inductors. The transformer isolates the resistive load, which will always force the  V & I to be inphase. However, there is an additional impedance placed on the primary as a result of the load. I'm sure if he was to show the primary waveform we would see that the V & I are nolonger 90 degrees out of phase (he says 50 degrees in the first video by mistake).

This guys is building three QEGs. He clearly thinks he can do what Jamie could not. Lets see if he post further videos, or will he stop once he realizes he is on a hiding to nothing.