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The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.

Started by gurangax, April 24, 2014, 02:40:13 PM

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gurangax

A wooden sliding cross bar does make scratching sound when sliding with the wheel. the crossbar can be the actual weights thus eliminating the need for extra weights. In his words are


"A wheel appears on the scene - is it really a wheel, for it does not have a normal rim. It revolves, but without other wheels inside or outside, and without weights, wind or springs.""It turns to the right and the left; it spins around in either direction, laden or empty."





fletcher

Quote from: gurangax on April 24, 2014, 08:12:21 PM

a testimony from the one who have seen the mechanism is this

Interior of the machine was a simple arrangement of weights and levers. - Prince Karl, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel, eyewitness account

so there you have it


Just a technicality gurangax - IIRC Karl never gave that descriptive "simple arrangement of weights & levers" - this appeared in a book by Frank Edwards & it is not known where he got the information - there is no confirmation from other sources so it is generally considered to be unreliable & poetic licence on his behalf.

Many of the quotes you are giving are subject to slight translation differences, but I accept that they are helping you frame the picture you want to paint.

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I feel I have to ask at this stage whether you are at the hypothesis & theory stage only ?

Or, have you conducted any sim or real world experiments that cause you such great confidence in a simple lever & weight solution to Bessler's mystery of his purported true PMM's ?

Thanks in advance !

TinselKoala

What about the testimony of Bessler's maid?

Something that is rarely mentioned here in discussions of Bessler is that he was a journeyman clockmaker before he found easier means of making his living.



gurangax

Quote from: fletcher on April 24, 2014, 11:49:50 PM
Just a technicality gurangax - IIRC Karl never gave that descriptive "simple arrangement of weights & levers" - this appeared in a book by Frank Edwards & it is not known where he got the information - there is no confirmation from other sources so it is generally considered to be unreliable & poetic licence on his behalf.

Many of the quotes you are giving are subject to slight translation differences, but I accept that they are helping you frame the picture you want to paint.

.......................................

I feel I have to ask at this stage whether you are at the hypothesis & theory stage only ?

Or, have you conducted any sim or real world experiments that cause you such great confidence in a simple lever & weight solution to Bessler's mystery of his purported true PMM's ?

Thanks in advance !




My  investigations have led me to believe that it is as simple as they say it is. pulleys are not necessary but it is used to tune the machine to do its job more efficiently. the concept of this lost knowledge is the core of his gravity wheel which is a 2 stage leverage system. Knowing this concept alone will open ways to many other gravity wheel marvels. I found other ways to do it without the use of pulleys. I will discuss about this in proper time as I need more time to decide. The secret wont be revealed in just a day.


Regards

gurangax

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 25, 2014, 12:18:31 AM
What about the testimony of Bessler's maid?

Something that is rarely mentioned here in discussions of Bessler is that he was a journeyman clockmaker before he found easier means of making his living.


I can assure you that Bessler is not a fraud.