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1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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ARMCORTEX

Making a tiny build would be a good idea, it would be a beautiful Dimitriev variation, an inverted  design.

On another note, I like this epicyclic drive I showed you guys, I have a couple ideas with that, I think this is what Jim Murray was doing, that crappy picture he showed he called "torque doubler".

Bobby amarasingham was doign a nice method too. Nice things from him :)

So many designs...


ARMCORTEX

Its basicly, 25% inspired by this video by purelyprimitives. I am pretty sure that he saw the video, he goes on the net and checks out FE videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0O0YKsBXUY&list=UUky8Hqzkspvmgw51osyKnaw

A few days ago I thought to myself, this pendulum idea is nice, but in double form would be even better, and there you go, see valy video few days later.

A double resonant device would be quite an  operation to get it to sync, 2 motors  out of phase via encoders, unless this can be done with help of neighbor and lucky timing

In hind-sight, I dont think my pulse idea with rotating bob would have been great, good maybe, but adds much complexity.

Perhaps he knew this and modded the pivot, and replaced by inverted pendulums, wich add a secondary resonance and more easily controlled by a mechanism.

The lower driving unit is sometype of synchronised driver for the inverted pendulums, does this  pendulumqualify as inverted pendulum ??

Isolate resonance of driver, brg main wheel to resonant speed via motor.

Noonespecial

What you think of the following idea, we take some cheaper motor and gear and freewheel it in the frame ( not with cheap internal gears of drills),
we take motors and mount a sliding frame as to minimise their weight.

Install reflective encoder and have 2 motors brg themselves to speed but out of synch, then drive wheel.

Would there be a mechanical method to link them ? perhaps find both of the center radius or the motor hinge swing perimeter
and lock the synch by chains and drive by single motor ?? Seems complex, and that their rates would be locked together, wich is bad.

What I am not sure if what is "resonant" control maintenance motor, one that drives big wheel, or 2 smaller ones. Valy is a clever guy.]\
Is he not satisfied with his other model ? Belt not durable enough ?? Ive seen a couple OU videos where the guys have a tensionner, in the middle of a long stretch of belt.

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One thing I notice from the Turkish and Valy and Chas, is that everything is normal, but the tensionner is always homemade,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Z1S_1GlxA

all is just useless delay line, see the gear proportions are entirely useless, pay attention to the evolution of the frame and yellow wheel.
It is not there at first then appears, and it is on sometype of adjustabloe base, then we see a clear focus by the video man on that part
Unfortunately there doesnt seem to be any eccentricity with that yellow wheel, I really wonder what its achieving.

One thing I noticwe that can be totally wrong, I wonder if there is somekind of "confusion", on a sudden pulse of speed, or brake even.
If there is oscillation, what is difference between normal-faster and normal-brake.



ARMCORTEX

Holy shit, I think there could be enough elasticity to get loose enough couple for a single drive mechanism, and make valy with 2 by 4's

Once its locked it dont need constant error feedback individually, so elastic link could be doable. hmmm...

With the ever trusty swinging chain method. ;)




DreamThinkBuild

Hi All,

I got a message asking if I'm still working on this. I'm a little hesitant to post this because it's not following Skinners design and purists get a little upset when you don't build exact replicas. It's based on similar ideas but using the attraction of magnets instead of heavy mass. It's still work in progress as I've been busy setting up solar for the summer.

Attached is a sneak peek and a image of concepts. The basics; a magnet is static, a hill is static, a magnet can create a static hill, a shifting axis can move the reference point of a static hill. A wheelbarrow full of bricks on a hill only needs to be lifted (static) past the angle of repose to take off down the hill. When your chasing a wheelbarrow full of paver's down the hill the only energy your inputting is the lift and running wildly behind it :). That is the direction I'm headed to create a static hill that the reference location can be shifted by the changing axis, with minimal input from the prime mover. The magnets provide the static lifting by repulsion. The attraction magnets are used to drive the axle as they always want to be pulled to the magnetic base/lowest point of hill.

Hi Armcortex,

Thanks for those videos. In elastic surfaces you might want to check the Woodward effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_effect

Here is an interesting patent application that uses a deformable rubber wheel to compress one side while letting the other side expand creating a directed force.

US 2003/0192988: Propulsion device with rotating elastic material

https://www.google.com/patents/US20030192988