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Overunity Machines Forum



1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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d3x0r

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on August 05, 2014, 04:51:25 PM

Thanks for those videos. In elastic surfaces you might want to check the Woodward effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_effect

Here is an interesting patent application that uses a deformable rubber wheel to compress one side while letting the other side expand creating a directed force.

US 2003/0192988: Propulsion device with rotating elastic material

https://www.google.com/patents/US20030192988
somewhat off topic; but a friend shared a link about an EM drive...
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052
This method originates from Roger Shawyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive)

Not a lot of exact info to replicate independantly... there's a few news articles
http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/impossible-space-engine-may-actually-work-nasa-140802.htm  (aug 2)

but again entirely off of gravity drive topic :)

DreamThinkBuild

Hi Webby,

I noticed similar results with using mass, the weight would have to become synchronized or it wouldn't generate any force or become erratic (strong and weak pulses).

I've been shifting more over to Bramkamp's ideas of having the motor a part of the weight that drives the precession. Magnets can be used as a static lifting force and as an offset to aid shifting the mass over the fulcrum. The motor would have to do very little but create a slight displacement over the fulcrum to keep the magnets out of balance.

US 1186966 : Roundabout

https://www.google.com/patents/US1186966

US 4290601 : Wobble plate exercise device and toy

https://www.google.com/patents/US4290601


Hi d3x0r,

Interesting. Wonder if Viktor Grebennikov's beetle used the resonant cavities in the surface to focus background radiation in a similar fashion.

http://www.ermetica.net/pk/?p=174

If the structure were measured it could be 3D printed and slapped on skate boards.  :)

http://www.nanoscribe.de/en/applications/photonics/

i_ron






My final thoughts:


The Skinner device could be a scam. The weights never fall. It is a system in balance. For the weight to fall it must be positioned away from its lowest position, in other words, further up the ramp. However every increase in drag angle to meet this criteria is met with a corresponding increase in input power. We view the lower unit as a source when in fact it is a sink.


The dog that didn't bark:


The line shaft. Industry knew how to make small motors by 1939 so the line shaft was already obsolete. However it was a hold over from an earlier age of wind, water, and steam, when the prime mover was a localized source. The line shaft spread the source around to the various machines.


So William Skinner's line shaft was powered, probably by an electric motor, in the vicinity of the line shaft...yet it is never shown...but critically, never shown that it is disconnected! The left hand end of the line shaft is never shown.


The above is the key, what follows is purely subjective. If you watch flat belt videos of threshing machines and saw mills you can notice that one side of the belt flaps more than the other. This is because one side is in tension, the driving side.  Looking at the drive belt from the line shaft to the gravity machine in the '39 video... the pulley on the machine is turning CW as viewed from Mr Skinner's position. This means that if the machine was driving the line shaft the top of the belt should be under tension, right?  However it appears that the top of the belt has more flap than the lower, as I say subjective, but if the device was the sole source of power to the line shaft, the top of the belt would be taut. What is shown in the video is that it is very possible that the device has two sources of power, the 1/8th horse power motor and the line shaft.
Ron


ARMCORTEX

Knew we couldnt trust this kid from EF, whats his name.

I_ron, now that you are back, I have been studying the chas campbell device, Im gonna make a thread dissecting it.

ARMCORTEX

http://www.overunity.com/14817/purelyprimitives-pendulum-power/#.U-aiGvldV8E

This is a skinner like device, but from our old friend.

I thought I had OU in the video, I guess I was just stupid, obviously the larger wheel is going @ lower rpm.

I shows some strange things, but I cant quite get OU power in the form of HP @ the shaft, I get it in joules/sec.

I believe tho, 2 machines, 90 degress out of phase, we coulld get the pull the highest velocity point of the CF force, all the time. Thus overcoming tendency to desynch and always maintain itself.

thus making OU device.

Its as if it was hopeless, I believe I am to the point where I must try the idea from that shady british guy.

I am a bit devastated, this and Skinner is not 100% in the bank.