drawing energy from parallel realities

[gauschor]

Ah, yes thanks. Thought I understood already, but now even better. Was hung up at the 18V for a while, but now I got it. The source C has 24V. It can either discharge to C1 or C2, but not both together. After it discharges, the source cap and one of the two discharge caps have 12V (in a circuit without random choice).

However when having 2 discharge caps, it requires a random choice. A choice between 2 future realities:
1) The reality where it discharges only to C1
2) The reality where it discharges only to C2

Each one of these caps would have 12V, but only one reality can come true. One of these two realities is inevitable. If one reality appears, the other ceases to exist. But both realities exist together at a point in a very short time frame. While the one reality comes true, the other reality must vanish - however - where should the energy (12V) go from the second reality? -> It is added onto the reality which comes true. Therefore the voltage (12V) from the ceasing parallel reality is split in half between the source cap and the discharge cap (each one gets additionally 6V).

So basically in the end, the source cap must have 18V and the C1 or C2 must have 18V. And this only works in a circuit where a "choice" is required.

[Void]

This experiment is not simple on/off , it is experiment with ZERO STATE where random choice was included.  In ordinary on/off switching where we have C source and C target, the total amount of charge will be the same before and after test. When we insert random choice we are creating parallel realities and both of them will happen, but we will remember just one. There is a transition period of time when we can detect(and draw) both of them. We have too draw energy from parallel  reality during this  period of time, otherwise it will gone.
It works like this :
Step 1  charging C-source from external source and discharging C1 and C2
step2  disconnecting C- source from external source
step 3 Discharging C-source  to randomly chosen  target capacitor C1 or C2.

It is very important. without random choice  extra charge will not appears.

I understood this difference Milan. I was just trying a quick test with my scope to see what
a 'normal' capacitor discharge from one capacitor to another of the same nominal value looks like,
as I wasn't sure if it was normal for there to be voltage increases over time due to small inductances in
the connecting wires or whatever. My test showed that even with using alligator clip leads that there were no
unexpected voltage increases detected. Again, I was just trying to see for myself what should happen in a
normal situation with this type of setup. It is nice to have a clear idea of what the normal 'baseline' is to compare to. 

I still would like to know if in your test setup if the source capacitor is left connected to the
second capacitor throughout the 10 seconds or so that you are doing your voltage measurements?

Also, have you tried connecting a high sample rate scope to each capacitor to capture the voltage waveforms
in your test? The most likely possible cause of your higher than expected voltage measurements
would be issues with the devices you are using to measure the voltage. Connecting a scope with a
high sampling rate (for example I used a 100 MHz scope in my test in my previous reply) to both C1 and C2
and using one shot mode on the scope to capture the waveforms would be one way to double check the
voltage measurements being done by the microcontroller and whichever analog to digital converter you are using.
If the high sample rate scope also catches the higher than expected voltages in the captured waveforms in your
random test scenario, then that would be a good double check. You also have the advantage of being able to view the
voltage changes continuously over time on the capacitors during the measurement period.
All the best...

[Void]

Here's a couple more scope shots of a 'normal' capacitor discharge test from a charged source capacitor to another
capacitor of the same nominal value. The first scope shot is with the time base set to 1 ms/div, and the
second scope shot is with the time base set to 50us/div. You can see there is some bounce happening in
there due to me connecting to the second capacitor by hand with an alligator clip, and also possibly due to the sparking as well.
All the best...

The yellow trace is the source capacitor.
The blue trace is the second capacitor which is being charged.

[Marsing]

Hi all,

i think C value need to be measured first, it appear that C-source has bigger value than C1, try swap C-source as C1 and C1 as C-source and repeat the process, wait about 5 second, if still show 18 volt, then there must be anomaly to be investigated.

and about parallel realities, i don't understand

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[Void]

Hi all,

i think C value need to be measured first, it appear that C-source has bigger value than C1, try swap C-source as C1 and C1 as C-source and repeat the process, wait about 5 second, if still show 18 volt, then there must be anomaly to be investigated.

and about parallel realities, i don't understand

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Hi Marsing. Milan stated in his video that he is swapping the capacitors around from test to test to take into account
small differences in capacitance values compared to the nominal values.
All the best...