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Magdrive HHO Generators

Started by ZeR888, September 12, 2006, 05:42:34 PM

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h20power

Quote from: fuelfromh2o on March 08, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
Concerning the brake booster vacuum connection, hydrogen can and "WILL"  permeate past the check valve and enter the booster chamber. The best of liquid/gas flashback check valves designed for gases
will permit seepage at one point or another. A simple mass produced check valve will not stop hydrogen leakage or bypass. Hydrogen can even find its way through lined natural rubber tubing or hose or any simple clamped hose connection.  Even threaded fittings must be tapered for compression and sealing, hydrogen can actually follow up the threads and escape if they aren't. Every connection no matter how small needs to be sealed completely using a compression fitting cut thread or a good sealant.
keep in mind, when you let off of the accelerator the vacuum immediately drops off on the engine. With that drop in vacuum and using the power brakes that check valve will "NOT"  block the hydrogen from accessing the booster because the HHO cell works in a positive pressure environment once vacuum is removed. The booster valve isn't designed for that type of gas and the booster valve tolerances and valve reaction time is way to slow.
So don't go blasting like in your previous post that people here on this forum don't have a clue or they are somewhat stupid or dense.
MagDrive FuelfromH2o


Okay, you have a point there, but so did I. So what you are saying is that the oneway valves on the cars need to be changed out, that makes since. Hydrogen is the smallest of all the atoms and can get throght just about anything given time to do so. Hydrogen also disperses very fast, with that being said no matter where you put it in the intake manifold it is going to get into everything. When the engine is off the gases still remains to seep into everything. Some have found out this concept the hard way, by filling a balloon with hydrogen and then after some time letting the gas out and get close to a flame with the same balloon and it blows up in their hand. The only way to stop this is to inject the hho gas directly into the cylanders. I will change out the oneway valve with a fast acting stainless steel type found in any truck stop that should take care of the problem, right ???

But I am right about the direction of gas flow, having been a mechanic for over 20 years and a degree in mechanical engineering, I can figure out the problems to just about anything that comes along. But I am only human and do miss things from time to  time ::). Thanks for the advice I will change out the oneway valve on any car that I put the devices on from now on ;), perhaps you should too, just to be safe.

I have been trying to get in contact with you for some time now, but now that I have switch gears going into fuel replacment systems I see no need too contact you anymore. You are doing great things for the Hydrogen Revolution, and, Lord be willing, soon so will I. Even though my market is for total fuel replacement, it can't replace the fuel for diesel engines I can only boost mileage. For that technology, Albert Bowe has the answer: http://waterengine.com.au/Video/WaterMotor.mp4

I put enough information on this site to help you out anyways, only thing you need to do is to bring the negetive from the engine to the cell, that give valance electron theory a chance to help make it even more efficent this site sells tubing with metal in it that can make the job easy: http://www.sisweb.com/vacuum/sis/steelhos.htm

Nice to finally get too talk to you somewhat, even if I got you upset. But I get tired of people questioning things when all I am trying to do is help. "We" have a lot of work to do since there are so many cars on the road running on petrolium fuels, and that is going to run out in about 2025. Well, take care and God Bless, just me h20power.............

h20power

On the valve topic when the engine is shut down the gas flow is towards the vacuum brake booster, if there is even the smallest leak in the oneway valve, all the left over gases will go to the brake booster. Since hydrogen is the lightest and smallest of them all, guess who goes first? This is why the oneway valve needs to be changed out and replaced with a very nice one, not the lowest bidder's oneway valve that the Automotive companies used.

Again thanks Magdrive(fuelfromh20) for clearing that up for me :)

But I am still right when the engine is running ;)

h20power

Hi everyone, Just in case you thought I was full of BS read this on Zigouras Racing:
http://blog.waterforfuel.com/2007/03/17/sky-driver-airlines-dropping-you-off-exactly-where-you-need-to-be.aspx#Comment

As you can see the US has it head in the ground like an osterage, hoping things will just get better somehow. I was really counting on Zigs too come through, since Hypowerfuel.com seems to have stopped for some reason also. waterforfuel.com is so close to getting things working I hope he makes it. I need more time and money always too broke to get things done in a timely fashion. Gas where I am is 335 a gallon now, just because, for there is no Huricain, or full scale war to blaim this time. The weather is good, we are at peace, just helping that country to get on their feet, so why the big increase in fuel prices?

It just makes me angry to see technology being supresst, and we really need it now. To many people are going without power that have families to raise, but the cost of living just is too much for them too bare.

Meyer's technology really works, it just needs some fine tunning is all. High voltage and low current do a number to water, Zigs was electrolizing aproximently two gallons a minute, and that's way more than any car would need to run on. I want to save our oil for it is needed to make plastics or do we want a clay TV box ???. I hate the way things are looking for it seems we have no future pass 2025, and the Government is fine with that, go figure.

kydrogen

Quote from: kydrogen on March 05, 2007, 07:20:27 PM
Just ordered a unit from Magdrive.  Will hook it up to my small genset and see how it goes.  Will post info as I go along. 

Here is what I ordered.

Series9 "Hydro"Gen? $289.95 [Auto Fill Model][3.1L - 4.3L engines]
I'll tap it into my Briggs and Stratton Generator (I think it's a 9 horsepower gasser).  Will  use a 12 volt car battery that I will purchase at Pepboys.  Will keep the battery charged with a portable charger that I will of course plug into the generator.

Wish me luck.

Ironhead that video blew me away.  Please post pics of the unit in your vehicle.

Peace.
The magdrive unit showed up last week.  Will be buying a 12v. battery and hooking it up  tomorrow morning.  First to see if it will produce some H and O2.  Then pipe it into the air intake of the generator.  I'll most likely buy an amp meter to see what kind of amperage the fuel cell will be drawing.  I may document with a video camera and if I do will post up on the net somewhere.

Bye for now.

hanker886

hello all,

Because of this forum, I finnally ordered a Hydrogen unit intended for my Mazda 626. I spoke with Jim of Mag Drive today, asked soem questions adn told him I am interested in getting a dealership for California. My plan is to sell this to truck drivers. During the conversation, he told me he already has dealership in 30 countries. So I naturally asked whether he sells to any far eastern countries. Then he said he would not sell his product to Japan, Korea, Hong Kong Malaysia... because of the piracies. He asked me about my name becasue it's not a typical English last name.

After the conversation, I think he concluded he doesn't want to sell me the unit. So he cancelled the ordered. I was shocked. I am speachless...

We are here in this forum talking to each other, spreading the words/knowledge and technologies hoping to advance the humanity to higher level, hoping to contribute to save the earth yet we still have such bias people thinking he owns the eletrolysis technology. He think he is the only one knows the process. How stupid he is...

I hope by revealing my story to the forum hoping to hear your opinion about MagDrive's act and I invite your comments. Thank you