Gyroscopic Inertia Generator

[MileHigh]

Scorch:

I am serious when I wish you good luck with your experiments.

In my previous posting I said this, "If you use the BEMF from your pulse motor, by definition it is not supposed to affect your RPM.  This is the same for any pulse motor."

You notice that I didn't tell you why.  You thought that no affect on the RPM when harvesting BEMF was noteworthy, and I told you it isn't.  So, it's up to you if you want to challenge yourself and try to figure out why this is the case.

Here is what would be a big mistake (this is a hypothetical):  A month from now you repeat the same thing when you do an experiment when you harvest the BEMF from your pulse motor.  You post saying, "Look, I am using the BEMF and the RPM doesn't change" in an attempt to make it look like the Quanta Magnetics motor is special in some way.  In other words you would be ignoring what I said.  If you did that you would just be cheating yourself, and cheating the people reading your thread.

The challenge for you is to figure out why.  Just like there will be other interesting challenges for you when you do other tests with your pulse motor/generator.  You want to avoid pseudo-tech cliches to explain what you are observing.

What always reigns supreme is power-in vs. power-out.

I found these links which are worth reading:

http://revolution-green.com/quantamagnetics-pulse-motor/
http://revolution-green.com/quanta-magnetics-pulse-motor/

Hello Mike I just finished watching your 25 minute video on my good friend's Sterling PESwiki website, I have read his website and communicated with Sterling almost daily for the ten years he has had his website. But Mike I have a question ??

I am a FCC licensed electronic technician / engineer and aircraft mechanic and I understood most of your explanation of your beautiful prototype, But I still do not know the very most important basic information and that is what is the required input wattage and what output wattage does that generate and as an example can if it is ten watts input and 100 watts output can ten of that 100 watts be used to power it and then do you have 90 watts of free energy ? Please advise

I asked Mike Kantz about self-looping on his Quanta Magnetics Facebook page. He said: "You can view the low input as it is being drawn, yet output cannot be measured the same way due to the resonance effect." So, how does he say the output of the T2 should be measured? He said: "The real output of this machine is measured in amp-hours stored for use from T2 charged batteries." I suppose given enough months of continuous output from a T2, one could charge many hundreds of batteries (storing huge amounts of amp-hours). But this has nothing to do with comparing a T2's watts in vs. watts out. Further, if the battery is being charged by a T2, by definition electricity is moving through a wire, and is there any reason at all that the watts moving through this wire could not be measured? Why would "the resonance effect" prevent measuring the watts moving through a wire? When I asked ZeroFossilFuel about this on his forum, Zero said: " 'Can't measure the same way' = not measuring real power. That's why he doesn't have a self looper, and that is the only true measure of over-unity or energy from the vacuum."

Like I said before, based on my viewing of the Quanta Magnetics clips, he would not know how to do these measurements properly.  You also notice that he is talking nonsense by mentioning resonance.  But more importantly, he would not want to state the measurements anyways, because power-in vs. power-out data for pulse motors usually really sucks.  There is nothing special about pulse charging a battery or charging a battery with a generator output if the power-in to power-out efficiency is only about 30%-35%.  It's even more distasteful when you look at Bedini motors because most of the time people are using a battery to charge a battery.  So it's a huge net loss in energy.

So I have an ongoing challenge to you to make proper power measurements when you do your experiments.  Don't be shy and ask the people on this forum to help you.  Most of the time you will get excellent help.

It's all about posting the real numbers for your Quanta Magnetics setup.  I am sure that many people would be interested in that data.

MileHigh

[Scorch]

Hey MileHigh. 

Real numbers.... this has always been a challenge going all the way back to the Bedini SSG.
Performance of which, apparently, can only be quantified by calculating Coefficient Of Performance before and after charging the battery. 
This because I can clearly see the batteries are charging much faster than the few milliamperes on the meter face would seem to indicate.

So... how useful is the meter?!?
It claims the batteries should NOT be charging that fast...

And possible chemical reactions sometimes described as "reverse ionic flow" in the electrolyte or possible resonate conditions in a battery effecting the chemical reaction....
In consideration of all possible factors effecting chemical reactions such as temperature and vibration; what good are COP calculations without ABSOLUTE, laboratory controlled, conditions, measurements, and calculations?!?

Rumor has it that Tesla didn't use an ammeter for some of his experiments.
So; I still seek measuring instruments that properly quantify the source field energy that some may call "radiant" energy.   

And, as near as I can tell, many of my instruments, including my clock, FAIL in certain aspects such as the apparent evidence that time is non-linear and gravity is a wave and not a particle.
So... What IS a "real number"? 

In my reality and at near light speed; the 'real numbers' of instruments indicate an hour passed but the 'real numbers' back on earth say that years have passed....
So which numbers are "real"? 

I would prefer to discover, or build, a system which may demonstrate an interesting effect WITHOUT a battery or even a meter. 
IF a system actually does power my light 24/7 without a battery; do I need a measuring instrument, or "real numbers", to prove the light is on? 

Kindest regards;

}:>

Scorch:

So I have an ongoing challenge to you to make proper power measurements when you do your experiments.  Don't be shy and ask the people on this forum to help you.  Most of the time you will get excellent help.

It's all about posting the real numbers for your Quanta Magnetics setup.  I am sure that many people would be interested in that data.

MileHigh

[Scorch]

Hello everybody. 

I managed to complete some fabrication today.

I began work with the pulse motor stators and did discover a couple minor issues in the process.
In fact I have already repaired the stators once, already, as it does appear that UPS managed to drop the kit somewhere along the way, at least once, and one coil on each stator had broken loose.
This was easily repaired with weldon #16 acrylic adhesive. When coils break loose; this results in a unique pattern, or "key", allowing the coil to simply be glued back into exactly the same place.

It does appear that the manufacture may wish to consider increasing the amount of glue during assembly so that glue actually spreads out between the bobbin and the stator for a stronger bond that might be better for the rigours of shipping.
It wouldn't be as pretty but, since this plate is covered by a very close fitting rotor, I wouldn't care anyway. 

After removing the protective wrapper from the acrylic plates; I did discover that three of the coils were not actually lined up with the plates.
The plates have circles machined to accommodate the coils as well as a groove machined in each circle to accommodate the inside wire from the bobbin.
And whoever assembled these simply didn't do a very good job making sure the coils, and respective wires, were lined up with the grooves properly.

I don't think this is a performance or clearance issue but, sometimes, I am a little picky about such things... 

So I simply used a hammer to knock out the three coils, machined in a 'side' groove to accommodate the improper alignment, then reinstalled the coils in a similar manner that I used with the first two that broke loose in shipping. So that solved the first minor issue.

I can understand why this might happen as it was assembled while protective acrylic wrap was still in place therefore no way to see this alignment during assembly.
It's a catch 22. Either leave wrap on to protect finish but possibly misalign coils. Or take wrap off for the assembly but possibly damage finish during assembly or shipping.   

The second issue I discovered is that some of the fasteners were sticking out from the back of the stator plates resulting in a small 'bump'.
And, because these stator plates have rotors on both the inside and the outside, this rear face should be as smooth as possible and no obstructions so that rotor may be mounted as close as possible to the stator.
This was easily remedied in a few seconds with an angle grinder to smooth down the bumps and solved this second minor issue forthwith.
And the manufacturer may wish to consider a little higher quality control to ensure no protrusions.
This, once again, might be better to do without the protective wrapper for closer inspection.

I did go a little outside the original design specification which calls for both stators to be connected together via two brass crimp connectors to be installed after stators assembled together in frame.
But I chose to actually solder these connections and provided separate pairs of leads for each stator.
This will be a more solid electrical connection and makes it much easier if experiment needs to be disassembled for whatever reason. 

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

}:>

[MileHigh]

Scorch:

I have two questions about your build.

Please see the attached picture.  I edited a frame from a clip.  Is that the basic architecture of the pulse motor section of what you are building?   (Left, center, and right rotors with embedded magnets on three separate rotating polycarbonate disks, and two sets of drive coils on two separate fixed polycarbonate slabs.)

For the pulse motor coils that you show pictures of, how "deep" does the wire go on each spool?  You can see that the spools are all red.  Does that mean the wire goes from an inner diameter of about 1/4" to the outer diameter of about 3"?

Thanks,

MileHigh

[Scorch]

Hey MileHile. 

Yes; that is the basic architecture of it.
There are three rotors with three magnets per each coil pair.

The main rotor, between the coils, contains 6 pcs of 1.5" Dia x 0.75" Thick N52 magnets.
The two outside rotors, behind the coils, are 12 pcs of 1.5" Dia x 0.25" Thick N42 magnets.

Coil bobbin outside dimensions are 3" diameter by 1" thick and inner diameter is also 1" and gives me the impression of a VHS tape reel which may work well for a DIY project on a budget.
They are wound with pretty substantial, 18AWG, (0.0415") magnet wire wound all the way out to the edges. Do not know how many turns or length of wire this is.
Quanta Magnetics used to sell the empty bobbins separately but I do not see them on the new web site.

Kindest regards.

}:>

PS: Quanta Magnets is aware of these minor issues with coils being dislodged in shipping, coil wires not lining up, and 'bumps'.
And the company has already updgraded the G1 design to provide for stator plates and coils to be assembled by the builder and new, custom, nylon fasteners to eliminate high spot 'bumps'.

}:>

Scorch:

I have two questions about your build.

Please see the attached picture.  I edited a frame from a clip.  Is that the basic architecture of the pulse motor section of what you are building?   (Left, center, and right rotors with embedded magnets on three separate rotating polycarbonate disks, and two sets of drive coils on two separate fixed polycarbonate slabs.)

For the pulse motor coils that you show pictures of, how "deep" does the wire go on each spool?  You can see that the spools are all red.  Does that mean the wire goes from an inner diameter of about 1/4" to the outer diameter of about 3"?

Thanks,

MileHigh