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Lenz free generator + a different pulse motor!

Started by life is illusion, December 21, 2014, 06:36:25 PM

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kEhYo77

Quote from: NoBull on December 25, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
and I agree with Guyla's analysis.
You are wrong that all the flux takes the shortest route (or the path of least reluctance).
The magnetic flux takes all parallel routes inversely proportionally to their reluctances.


From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_circuit#Hopkinson.27s_law:_the_magnetic_analogy_to_Ohm.27s_law


Magnetic flux always forms a closed loop, as described by, but the path of the loop depends on the reluctance of the surrounding materials. It is concentrated around the path of least reluctance.


Limitations of the analogy: When using the analogy between magnetic circuits and electric circuits, the limitations of this analogy must be kept in mind. Electric and magnetic circuits are only superficially similar because of the similarity between Hopkinson's law and Ohm's law. Magnetic circuits have significant differences, which must be taken into account in their construction.

NoBull

Quote from: kEhYo77 on December 26, 2014, 03:48:49 AM
Magnetic flux always forms a closed loop, as described by, but the path of the loop depends on the reluctance of the surrounding materials. It is concentrated around the path of least reluctance.
Yes, it is concentrated.  Concentration does not mean that all flux is confined to the path of least reluctance - just most of it.

Quote from: kEhYo77 on December 26, 2014, 03:48:49 AM
Electric and magnetic circuits are only superficially similar because of the similarity between Hopkinson's law and Ohm's law. Magnetic circuits have significant differences, which must be taken into account in their construction.
Electric current also flows in closed loops.
Yes, this analogy has limits but the significant differences start appearing only when the magnetic flux starts varying in time.

kEhYo77

Quote from: NoBull on December 26, 2014, 06:52:59 AM
Yes, it is concentrated.  Concentration does not mean that all flux is confined to the path of least reluctance - just most of it.


So now You admit, that most of the flux will go through the first section that has the least reluctance. It will be concentrated mainly there if the core can fit the flux without saturation.

ayeaye

It is not certain that the flux always goes to the path of least resistance. For example, the flux may go there where it is the most needed. Flux is just a name for extremely complex electromagnetic processes, happening inside or around the core. To just name all that somehow.

BorisKrabow

Quote from: tinman on December 23, 2014, 08:04:22 AM

Current flow through a wire can be seen like water flowing through a pipe,and most electrical circuits can be replicated useing water,pipes and valves. Below is a video that i would concider to be the very same as an inductive kickback circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSE4GeWszg

      hello NoBull !    This video contains a large error : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSE4GeWszg      ) ) )
        Here is the correct video  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm2USIYc53E   
        change in the motion of the magnet changes the direction of the current           
         If you receive information from textbooks contain errors - you can not get free energy  .