The 'free energy' spark

[Zeitmaschine]

Interesting statement. Contradicts itself. Primary amps not affected, but energy comes from primary.

This is all about charging a capacitor for free by means of high voltage, like approximately showed in this Tom Bearden graphics.

I write »approximately« because the battery symbol (V1 Source) on the left is misleading (the purpose of the diode is also unclear). The grounding is OK, but the positive side of the source should be static high voltage, which charges the capacitor without a closed circuit, hence not destroying the dipole.

The switch resembles the spark (or vice versa) which shorts the capacitor and acts also as load.

Now instead of burning the energy in a spark (because it is a convenient automatic switch) we should rather make practical use of it, by means of a »switch« that is controlled by an AC high voltage source instead of DC.

By the way, if the very low capacitance of a spark gap is bridged by an additional capacitor, we get a much stronger spark (for free, as it seems).

[pomodoro]

A high DC voltage with one end open will do nothing. It needs to be alternating, very high voltage and HF. Then it magically travels through one wire and also through glass! Current flow is due to electrons being pumped into one end of the coil, through the load if any, then back to the other disconnected end. This is a displacement current and is increased by any capacitive body near the unconnected terminal. As mentioned you will be amazed the first time you see it pass straight through a few mm of glass. The glass still insulates but the electrons care little and capacitively pass a current anyway. Accurate measurements are practically impossible and one needs to resort to measuring DC into device and DC out into load. The usual oscilloscope methods are swamped by false signals.OU is super unlikely as every Tom Dick and Harry in the last 200 years has studied sparks ,arcs and high voltages as that was all they had to study. There are massive amounts of research papers on them from the 1800s to about the 1930s.

[Zeitmaschine]

It needs to be alternating, very high voltage and HF.

May be, but I'm talking here about 50Hz and voltage around 3KV.

High frequency and VERY high voltage will only create unnecessary problems.

[conradelektro]

A high DC voltage with one end open will do nothing. It needs to be alternating, very high voltage and HF.

I agree, it needs to be AC in order to be stepped down. But some things have been studied for a long time and still have not been interpreted in the right way.


Take for instance the electrophorus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrophorus , which is the first and oldest reliable "electricity generator". If done right, the electrophorus is a Hig Voltage AC Generator. And with this HV AC more can be done than with a spark which only discharges a positive or negative charge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLCp68VX7NE (also read the video description)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzoUiZnR5QA (also read the video description)


I do not yet show what can be done, but it opens the way for a step down circuit. AC could be stepped down more easily than a unipolar HV spark.


True, the electrophorus is still producing only sparks, but in my circuit (see the two videos) there are sparks in both directions, hence some "dirty AC". In order to step that down one needs an air core transformer which nowadays is called pulse transformer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_types#Pulse_transformer


Note: the electrophorus is not a practical electricity generator, but this principle can be enhanced to a better generator like a Wimshurst machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimshurst_machine . This type of machine can also be fitted with a circuit that produces AC spikes.


The question now is, can the HV AC spikes be stepped down in an efficient way? And I am working on just that.


How is this related to this topic:


It is the sparks or spikes. The old electrostatic machines produce HV sparks, just what people try to study in this thread. And if done right (the right circuit), the old electrostatic machines (some of them) can produce AC sparks or spikes (spikes or sparks from positive to ground and then from negative to ground).


In my two videos I show a series of "positive spikes" followed by a series of "negative spikes".But if a spark gap is use instead of the gas discharge lamp, a single "positive spike" is followed by a single "negative spike" and so on. This I call "dirty AC". A spark gap allows to adjust the Voltage at which the spike or spark occurs.


Greetings,Conrad

[pomodoro]

Let's not get confused. The open ended supply version in Z's picture is what I was referring to. 50hz and 3kv  will not be enough. The ground return is needed then. 100khz and 30kv is more like it. The electrophorous might work but the dv/dt needs to be made massive and alternate fast,. If the single wire supply is used as in Z's pic. A car ignition coil can be used as a test but the battery has a rather large bulk and even if not grounded can act as a capacitative reservoir like a metal ball in space can act as a capacitor. Allowing a charge to be pumped to and fro a single wire.
Moray's patent has similar discharges through glass tubes using Odin coils. Moist vapor in the tube generated OU apparently.