Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[verpies]

I have no intention of even trying to do a technical rebut of what Smudge has to say. 

Why not?  Do you think that he is correct about the negative resistance in presence of a magnetic propagation delay ?
In any case you can expect Smudge to be a good opponent in a decent logical debate ...without the usual AdHominem remarks that are so prevalent here.

[Cap-Z-ro]

My main argument...the only valid one by the way...is that anything presented will succeed or fail on its own merit.

Without all the noise makers and harassers.

Who, are preventing people from conducting unfettered experiments with their disruptions.

So what if it turns out to be a bust...but, the possibility exists that an important discovery could possibly happen along the way.

But not with all the distractions created by the usual suspects...who are paid to make sure that doesn't happen.

Their pat excuse for harassing these presenters was always, "to prevent these fraudsters from fleecing unwitting replicators of their hard earned money."

However, Chris asked for nothing...nothing...nothing...so what is their excuse for harassing him, after being asked to leave countless times ?

The obvious answer is...there is no excuse for their conduct.

The only alternatives are that they are bullies or paid shills.


The reason why I have morphed into what you see now is because I am a survivor of abuse, and because of it I have become a rather tough individual when the situation calls for it.

And, as a result, I have little tolerance for abusive conduct...and I could watch this abuse for only so long.

We all have heard it in school that those who stand by while someone is being abused are as guilty as the abuser.

Don't fool yourself into thinking i enjoy this role, because I do not.

But, at the same time, I have to balance this negative task by entertaining myself as best i can.

Regards...

[hanon]

Maybe you could find this link interesting

http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg434841/#msg434841

[MileHigh]

Why not?  Do you think that he is correct about the negative resistance in presence of a magnetic propagation delay ?
In any case you can expect Smudge to be a good opponent in a decent logical debate ...without the usual AdHominem remarks that are so prevalent here.

It's because I don't have the fire in my belly to take it that far.  I don't have theory on the tip of my tongue like you do and it would be a lot of work for me to research.  I can't comment on the negative resistance business.  However, we both know in the case of a tunnel diode, the property of differential negative resistance is "abused" in the realm of free energy and made into something that it's not.  I don't know if there is a parallel there or not.

I hope that you understand, I am relying more on the results from the replicators and just boring old transformer theory, where both of us probably sat in class and followed through all of the derivations.  That boring old theory is rock solid.

MileHigh

[PIH123]

Thanks for the toned down post !!!! Really !!!!

My main argument...the only valid one by the way...is that anything presented will succeed or fail on its own merit.

Agreed

Without all the noise makers and harassers.
Who, are preventing people from conducting unfettered experiments with their disruptions.

Depends what you mean by noise makers.

Is TK a noise maker ? Yes he has many doubts and asks lots of questions, and puts forth MANY reasons for scams/misrepresentations etc.
But doesn't he also do hundreds of replications. Some where there may be something to see, but mostly to disprove something.

Do you think MarkE does not know his stuff ? Can you dispute a single thing that he points to as evidence of deception.
And if yes, what would that make it ? 0.001% where he is wrong?

And I know you hate MileHigh. But look at the hundreds of posts where he is offering advice (even to something he knows will fail).
OK, admittedly again out of thousands, but he spends bmost of his time defending.
Sadly, that takes away from the time he could be contributing.

I do not even want to go with your thing with PirateBill. It is just not my thing.

So what if it turns out to be a bust...but, the possibility exists that an important discovery could possibly happen along the way.

Great, so we can find out if something is real or not then with evidence.
But how do we get that evidence ?
Is it polite to ask questions. Or do we wait (16 years in EMJunkies case) for him to provide some.
If we ask a question, and he just skirts around it (or more typically answers with a claim of harassment), do we continue to wait another 16 years, or expose the scam that has become apparent by the multitude of evidence presented ?
If the evidence against is 90% and the evidence for is 10%, do we just not say anything just in case ?
Do replications ? See last 10 pages.

But not with all the distractions created by the usual suspects...who are paid to make sure that doesn't happen.

Not going to go there, with that worn out paid shills mantra.

Their pat excuse for harassing these presenters was always, "to prevent these fraudsters from fleecing unwitting replicators of their hard earned money."

However, Chris asked for nothing...nothing...nothing...so what is their excuse for harassing him, after being asked to leave countless times ?

The obvious answer is...there is no excuse for their conduct.

The alternative answer, that may not have crossed your mind is :

a. they have additional questions about the evidence (usually sparse or lacking) presented
b: they see something incorrect, have proof of it and want to correct it.
c. are also here for entertainment (like me for the most part) and have become part of a community. (that is huge in today's electronic world)
d. who are we kidding, half of these guys have gofundme campaigns or paypal buttons. It's the pat excuse one

The only alternatives are that they are bullies or paid shills.

Not going there

The reason why I have morphed into what you see now is because I am a survivor of abuse, and because of it I have become a rather tough individual when the situation calls for it.

And, as a result, I have little tolerance for abusive conduct...and I could watch this abuse for only so long.

We all have heard it in school that those who stand by while someone is being abused are as guilty as the abuser.

Don't fool yourself into thinking i enjoy this role, because I do not.

But, at the same time, I have to balance this negative task by entertaining myself as best i can.

At least if it is entertaining to you, then that is not such a bad thing.
Chris may have been embarrassed by this, but most of us, not so much.