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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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verpies

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 11, 2015, 04:02:15 AM
PPS: An "Electric Generator" can generate an "EMF" but if there is no Load, EG: No Current draw from the Terminals, then Lenz's Law, the associated Magnetic Field, will not be present. Result: No Drag on the "Generator" Shaft due to Lenz's Law.
I understand what you mean, but as a rigorous participant in the poll I cannot answer it as it is stated.  There is a big difference between stating that time varying magnetic field causes current flow and that electric current is a time varying magnetic field.

A coil/winding without a current flowing behaves as if it did not exist at all.  That's why I prefer to analyze inductors in the current domain and capacitors in the electric domain.
Inductors/coils are inherently current devices and their energy content and reactions can be analyzed without invoking the notion of the EMF at all, but if you are really attached to that concept then its not an error.

P.S.
Please don't confuse the 3 degrees of freedom of a vector in 3D space with a true 3D object such as the trivector.
Also don't confuse a scalar with a pseudoscalar such as the 3D motion of an inflating balloon in 3D space which is "directionless" magnitude only in the sense that it has no preferred direction through the exhaustion of all available dimensions of the containing space.

forest

What do you think about such experiment : a transformer having primary connected to the alternating current generator and a secondary having a very long output wires , more then 100km but precisely measured. On the secondary ends there is a voltmeter and on each leg near the terminal ends there are precise Hall sensors. The input is synchronized in time with output so at exact moment input is turned on and output can be measured. There is no current flow in secondary. Question : will the halla sensor detect magnetic field present a the transient moment of switching input power around the secondary wires ?

EMJunkie

Quote from: verpies on May 11, 2015, 10:56:59 AM
I understand what you mean, but as a rigorous participant in the poll I cannot answer it as it is stated.  There is a big difference between stating that time varying magnetic field causes current flow and that electric current is a time varying magnetic field.

A coil/winding without a current flowing behaves as if it did not exist at all.  That's why I prefer to analyze inductors in the current domain and capacitors in the electric domain.
Inductors/coils are inherently current devices and their energy content and reactions can be analyzed without invoking the notion of the EMF at all, but if you are really attached to that concept then its not an error.

P.S.
Please don't confuse the 3 degrees of freedom of a vector in 3D space with a true 3D object such as the trivector.
Also don't confuse a scalar with a pseudoscalar such as the 3D motion of an inflating balloon in 3D space which is "directionless" magnitude only in the sense that it has no preferred direction through the exhaustion of all available dimensions of the containing space.

Finally, someone that knows what he is talking about! Verpies, I agree.

Magnetic Fields are Current - The two are the same! If you read between the lines that is!
Electric Field is Voltage - I don't need to explain here!

Good, productive chat, others need to read this man's words and take notes!

MarkE

Quote from: forest on May 11, 2015, 03:50:25 PM
What do you think about such experiment : a transformer having primary connected to the alternating current generator and a secondary having a very long output wires , more then 100km but precisely measured. On the secondary ends there is a voltmeter and on each leg near the terminal ends there are precise Hall sensors. The input is synchronized in time with output so at exact moment input is turned on and output can be measured. There is no current flow in secondary. Question : will the halla sensor detect magnetic field present a the transient moment of switching input power around the secondary wires ?
Oh, but you will see a flow in the secondary for at least 600us.  You have entered the land of transmission line theory.

Dave45

QuoteMagnetic Fields are Current - The two are the same! If you read between the lines that is!
Electric Field is Voltage - I don't need to explain here!
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