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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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nelsonrochaa

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 30, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Of course, no hard feelings.

Better that way.:)

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 30, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
My only gripe is that Chris has claimed overunity about 30 times now and has not even shown any credible measurements or one single replication.  With a COP of 1.7 (as he has claimed)  you would think that he could light an led with the excess...yet he can't and we know why.

After all this fuss, because he will have to show whatever it was?
Why do you think you on the right that it provides you whatever?
See one of the firsts messages in the very first post of this topic :
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg433183/#msg433183

This is outrageous!
If you were in his shoes still wanted to share something?
I'm afraid that was the biggest mistake of Chris.
I had exchanged some impressions with Chris long before this topic be opened, and of course I understand that maybe Chris has too simplified the difficulty in reproducing some of the effects that he speaks. There are some variants, which apparently many people seem not understand .
As I said once in one of those conversations all roads lead to Rome. :)

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 30, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Then he began to post about how reactive power can do work.  Great, fine.  Except, everything I have read about reactive power simply says it goes from the plus to the minus back and forth and can not do any work.


You are in the right to believe what this Agreed in books, on this subject i can tell you that remains a very gray area.
The reactive power when it says that does not generate work or Watts is because of their electrostatic nature and the way that interact in convencional circuits, however if it is converted and stored in a  electrostatic container (condenser) can be converted into W.
P (W) = E (j) / T (s)
But neither am very interested in deepening this issue, because then I will have to put up with half a dozen people to honk in my ears.

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 30, 2015, 02:49:17 PM

Why don't you ask him to do so?  Maybe he will listen to you?

Do I look like a bitch?
If you need to ask something asks you but in a constructive way. .
Chris follows his way and I go mine, but I respect his work and I appreciate the fact that the share but you must be kidding lol

For me let topic run

Nelson


Pirate88179

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 30, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Better that way. :)

After all this fuss, because he will have to show whatever it was?
Why do you think you on the right that it provides you whatever?
See one of the firsts messages in the very first post of this topic :
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg433183/#msg433183

This is outrageous!
If you were in his shoes still wanted to share something?
I'm afraid that was the biggest mistake of Chris.
I had exchanged some impressions with Chris long before this topic be opened, and of course I understand that maybe Chris has too simplified the difficulty in reproducing some of the effects that he speaks. There are some variants, which apparently many people seem not understand .
As I said once in one of those conversations all roads lead to Rome. :)

You are in the right to believe what this Agreed in books, on this subject i can tell you that remains a very gray area.
The reactive power when it says that does not generate work or Watts is because of their electrostatic nature and the way that interact in convencional circuits, however if it is converted and stored in a  electrostatic container (condenser) can be converted into W.
P (W) = E (j) / T (s)
But neither am very interested in deepening this issue, because then I will have to put up with half a dozen people to honk in my ears.

Do I look like a bitch?
If you need to ask something asks you but in a constructive way. .
Chris follows his way and I go mine, but I respect his work and I appreciate the fact that the share but you must be kidding lol

For me let topic run

Nelson

No, I am not kidding.  If one makes an outrageous claim, one must back that up or be called out by those that know better.  This is what has happened here, plain and simple.  Chris added to this problem by making many, many more outrageous claims that made it obvious that he knows nothing about electronics.  If you know anything about electronics and electricity, then you know this is correct.

So, now I am wrong to ask for proof?  (I, of course, am not the only one asking for proof, there are many folks doing so.)

Nelson, if you posted that you have a pink unicorn in your back yard...I might say hey, that is cool, can you show us what it looks like?
Then, if you respond that no one has any reason to question your statement, and that it is me that needs to prove that you do not have a pink unicorn in your back yard, ...well...do you see my point?

Maybe not, but I did try to make it clear.

Look back a few pages where Chris claimed an entire country is using his device for their power needs.  I mean...come on Nelson, even you do not believe that one right?  Should these types of fantasy claims go unchallenged?

Bill

See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

MarkE

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 30, 2015, 12:03:12 PM
Is that your question about reactive power that you talk ?

Man you simple make a pejorative  statement about someone and  that is much different of a question.
You had the right to say what you thought, I also feel the right to ask you to stop saying nonsense.
Do You think you already belong to the club of pundits?
Just because you do not agree or do not understand the work of someone does not mean you can jeopardize a person or their work.
We understand that not everyone agrees with the topic created by Chris, but can not because the validity of his work only because they do not get the same results.
It can be frustrating understand when the results do not appear.
There are many people who even without consent, are not here to "attack" people or jeopardize their competence. ok?

So let the show run ,  no hard feelings .

EMJ has failed to show that he gets the results that he claims.  EMJ has demonstrated repeatedly that his understanding is deeply flawed.

MarkE

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 30, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Better that way.:)

After all this fuss, because he will have to show whatever it was?
Why do you think you on the right that it provides you whatever?
See one of the firsts messages in the very first post of this topic :
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg433183/#msg433183

This is outrageous!
If you were in his shoes still wanted to share something?
I'm afraid that was the biggest mistake of Chris.
I had exchanged some impressions with Chris long before this topic be opened, and of course I understand that maybe Chris has too simplified the difficulty in reproducing some of the effects that he speaks. There are some variants, which apparently many people seem not understand .
As I said once in one of those conversations all roads lead to Rome. :)

You are in the right to believe what this Agreed in books, on this subject i can tell you that remains a very gray area.
The reactive power when it says that does not generate work or Watts is because of their electrostatic nature and the way that interact in convencional circuits, however if it is converted and stored in a  electrostatic container (condenser) can be converted into W.
P (W) = E (j) / T (s)
But neither am very interested in deepening this issue, because then I will have to put up with half a dozen people to honk in my ears.

Do I look like a bitch?
If you need to ask something asks you but in a constructive way. .
Chris follows his way and I go mine, but I respect his work and I appreciate the fact that the share but you must be kidding lol

For me let topic run

Nelson
EMJ has shared tall tales and fanciful claims of ordinary things behaving in extraordinary ways that he has failed to evidence.

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 30, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
No, I am not kidding.  If one makes an outrageous claim, one must back that up or be called out by those that know better.  This is what has happened here, plain and simple.  Chris added to this problem by making many, many more outrageous claims that made it obvious that he knows nothing about electronics.  If you know anything about electronics and electricity, then you know this is correct.

So, now I am wrong to ask for proof?  (I, of course, am not the only one asking for proof, there are many folks doing so.)

Nelson, if you posted that you have a pink unicorn in your back yard...I might say hey, that is cool, can you show us what it looks like?
Then, if you respond that no one has any reason to question your statement, and that it is me that needs to prove that you do not have a pink unicorn in your back yard, ...well...do you see my point?

Maybe not, but I did try to make it clear.

Look back a few pages where Chris claimed an entire country is using his device for their power needs.  I mean...come on Nelson, even you do not believe that one right?  Should these types of fantasy claims go unchallenged?

Bill

I live on the same planet as you, I understand your point of view,
do not understand is how can you assume that I or other person who agrees with the work of Chris admittedly not notice anything of electricity.
You can put me in the same lot of people, because I agree with some points of their work, not all but some.
takes things more smooth. :)

Nelson