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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MileHigh

QuoteThe possibility of obtaining energy from the addition of electromagnetic waves were studied experimentally in studies of various types of feeder - waveguide, two-wire, strip, coaxial. Frequency range is from 300 MHz to 12.5 GHz. Power was measured both directly - power meter, or indirectly - detector diodes and voltmeters. As a result, when certain settings in the feeder lines of positive results. With the addition of field amplitudes (in load) dissipated power in the load exceeds the power fed to different channels (using power dividers). The most simple experiment to illustrate the principle of addition of the amplitudes, is an experiment in which three-phase antenna narrowly focused work on one reception room, to which the power meter. The result of this experience: power recorded by the receiving antenna to nine times greater than that given by each transmitting antenna at a time. On the receiving antenna, the amplitudes (three) of the three transmitting antennas and receiving power is proportional to the square of the amplitude. That is, if the addition of three-phase amplitudes of the power receiving increased nine times!

This kind of stuff is free energy cottage industry pulp fiction and I am quite certain most of the readers of this thread are aware of this.  It's nothing more than verbage designed to sell junk pulp books or sucker gullible people into investing money in con artist schemes.

The rebut to the false claim is a classic, "voltage is not power."

EMJunkie

Quote from: MileHigh on October 08, 2015, 06:41:09 AM
This kind of stuff is free energy cottage industry pulp fiction and I am quite certain most of the readers of this thread are aware of this.  It's nothing more than verbage designed to sell junk pulp books or sucker gullible people into investing money in con artist schemes.

The rebut to the false claim is a classic, "voltage is not power."


...and there we go, you again prove that you have not read and thus can not understand any of the context!

Didn't see the bit about Wattmeter's! Didn't see at all!!! See, nothing is For Sale!!! So your regular Ideogram's here are just a pathetic mess of drivel!!!

Its the Blue Pill: "You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe."

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tinman

Quote from: Magluvin on October 07, 2015, 05:46:45 PM
Yep. That was one I posted a few days ago.  A good read and makes a lot of sense. ;)

Mags

I see that the paper say's it is the magnetic flux from the primary that cut's the secondary on it's way to the core,and this is what i believe happen's,and show's that all the magnetic flux IS NOT contained within the core,as it has to travel from the primary winding to the core. So,as long as there is current flowing through the primary winding,then the magnetic flux exist from the primary winding to the core. To say it dosnt is like saying the water flowing from a hose just disappears at the hose end,and reappears in the bucket-or have we just discovered magnetic teleportation ???

!BUT! i see a hiccup  ::)
If the primaries flux is what is passing through a secondary on it's way to the core,and it is that action that produces an EMF at the secondary,how do we explain the secondaries EMF in the below depicted transformer?

poynt99

Quote from: Magluvin on October 08, 2015, 12:45:04 AM
Oh. Forgot I wanted to include that in my last post.

I would think so.

The primary on the left is a single turn for simplicity, is the thin black circle around the core. The red circles are depictions of field around the winding. And the violet lines are the fields once expanded from the winding.

Mags
In general I don't agree with any of Distini's writings, but this diagram is flawed. The flux would not expand from left to right as the amplitude of the primary current increases. The flux would only increase and decrease in level, but the path would remain fairly constant.

So if in fact the core was so poor (low permeability or saturated) that flux was leaking that badly, the flux would not be moving as a wave front from left to right as depicted. It would be looping in the middle as it returns back to the source. In light of this, is the flux orientation still correct in order to induce an emf in that secondary?
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poynt99

Quote from: tinman on October 08, 2015, 07:45:43 AM
I see that the paper say's it is the magnetic flux from the primary that cut's the secondary on it's way to the core,and this is what i believe happen's,and show's that all the magnetic flux IS NOT contained within the core,as it has to travel from the primary winding to the core. So,as long as there is current flowing through the primary winding,then the magnetic flux exist from the primary winding to the core. To say it dosnt is like saying the water flowing from a hose just disappears at the hose end,and reappears in the bucket-or have we just discovered magnetic teleportation ???
So should we take one non peer-reviewed "paper" as "fact" over 100's or 1000's of peer-reviewed papers that support what I'm saying?

I can see entertaining new ideas, but his concepts don't make any sense in view of how nature really works regarding cores and flux etc.

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!BUT! i see a hiccup  ::)
If the primaries flux is what is passing through a secondary on it's way to the core,and it is that action that produces an EMF at the secondary,how do we explain the secondaries EMF in the below depicted transformer?
I don't understand the question. Can you elaborate?
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Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209