Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[citfta]

seychelles,

Would you please read the article I posted a link to before making any more dumb comments.  This thread already has more that enough of those.  I posted the link so everyone could read it and then get back to the subject matter this thread is supposed to be about.

[EMJunkie]

Here is a link to the original article by the professor that decided pi is wrong.  I am not a mathematician but the best I can understand from the article is the value is not wrong, it is the way they have to use it because it does not conform to the way they normally look at circles in the field of mathematics.  His argument (if I understand correctly) is that pi is a valid number if we are looking at circles from a degree of distance around the circumference.  But mathematicians look at circles from a radian view instead and that means they have to double pi in order to use it correctly.  You can read the article for yourself and decide what he is saying.

http://www.math.utah.edu/~palais/pi.html

If some of you would just do a little research you wouldn't have nearly as much to argue about.  Just saying.

Carroll

Carroll - At least youre paying attention...

This is a different debate with the name of the same argument.

Experimental and Mathematical proof is very well documented for the Value of PI here: The Great Pi Conspiracy <<-- This is where the evidence is!!!

Current Value of PI: 3.1415926535897932384626433832795
Experimental and Mathematical Value of PI: 3.144605511029693144282691537944 Where π = (4)/(T), where T = the square root of the golden ratio

The other Article you referenced is an argument for replacing the (2PI) in all the equations in Science with TAU - A different argument all together. This was my mistake before also.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[TinselKoala]

The roundest thing in my easy-to-reach environment is a "mini" CD-ROM disk. I took my digital caliper and measured its diameter to be 79.93 mm. Then I took a sheet of copy paper and wrapped it tightly around the circumference of this mini-disk, and using a sewing needle, I pierced through the sheet once where it overlapped itself on the rim of the disk, making two tiny holes. Then I unwrapped the sheet and measured the distance between the two holes with a steel machinist's ruler. This distance was 251.1 mm.

Do the math.

[TinselKoala]

Carroll - At least youre paying attention...

This is a different debate with the name of the same argument.

Experimental and Mathematical proof is very well documented for the Value of PI here: The Great Pi Conspiracy <<-- This is where the evidence is!!!

Current Value of PI: 3.1415926535897932384626433832795
Experimental and Mathematical Value of PI: 3.144605511029693144282691537944 Where π = (4)/(T), where T = the square root of the golden ratio

The other Article you referenced is an argument for replacing the (2PI) in all the equations in Science with TAU - A different argument all together. This was my mistake before also.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

You can call a spade a "fork" if you like, but that doesn't make it a fork. 4/T is NOT pi, it is something else that is an approximation of pi, just as 22/7 is an approximation of pi. Actual precise measurements of round things refute your "experimental" value for which you quote 32 significant digits, a value that is _impossible_ to obtain by actual measurements of anything, because you do not have tools that are that precise.

[MileHigh]

Math is a great tool for making approximations,, maybe very accurate ones but it is not a "real" thing.

I take it then that YOU have not actually done this simple test using reasonable care to do it correctly.

I use Pi all the time and it seems to work just fine,, but then again I would not notice a 1% deviation with my builds.

I am not so sure of what all the fuss is about,, as in how that affects my day to day life,, I think it would only affect those looking to make changes.

So,, If 10 people did this test and reported there findings we would have an answer and IF Pi is wrong it is wrong,, if not then it is not.

I made the supreme effort and entered this into Google, "software algorithm to calculate pi."

The application of pure intellect can be used to determine the value of Pi.  You don't have to physically measure it.

You can then go find one of many programs and read all about how it works first.  You can decide if you agree with the way the program works or not.  Then you can download it and actually run it yourself.  Be a "doer."