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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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itsu


Thanks for the comments guys, i understand your positions and enthusiasm.

My position however is somewhat different as that i am just a simple replicator.

I try to replicate circuits / contraptions etc. from which the "inventor" says that it "makes more light coming out then put in" (whatever that means), or
"the voltage will rise over time", or "there is more output then input" or "the cop = >1" etc. etc.

I must have made over 100 replications these last years, and in ALL cases (so 100%) i was not able to replicate the claimed effect.
Even when the inventor was around and able and willing to provide guidance, which is mostly NOT the case as suddenly the inventor has dissappeared, does not react on questions
or keeps on producing similar but different contraptions at a high rate, unable to be verified.

I understand that you guys promote to be creative and try different setups etc. to find "the effect", but thats not me.

I need a fixed setup from something that the inventor claims it does something special and i thought lostfox / wistiti claimed that in the by me above linked circuit diagram.
My tests of this circuit shows after 3 different build a max. efficiency of 80% and i understand from your comments that that is low.
So please show me a working setup that does better and i will try to replicate.

In the mean time, by all means try to be as creative and "out of the box thinking" as you possible can to reach the ultimate goal: "excess energy"



Regards Itsu

EMJunkie

Quote from: itsu on November 10, 2016, 10:32:01 AM
Thanks for the comments guys, i understand your positions and enthusiasm.

My position however is somewhat different as that i am just a simple replicator.

I try to replicate circuits / contraptions etc. from which the "inventor" says that it "makes more light coming out then put in" (whatever that means), or
"the voltage will rise over time", or "there is more output then input" or "the cop = >1" etc. etc.

I must have made over 100 replications these last years, and in ALL cases (so 100%) i was not able to replicate the claimed effect.
Even when the inventor was around and able and willing to provide guidance, which is mostly NOT the case as suddenly the inventor has dissappeared, does not react on questions
or keeps on producing similar but different contraptions at a high rate, unable to be verified.

I understand that you guys promote to be creative and try different setups etc. to find "the effect", but thats not me.

I need a fixed setup from something that the inventor claims it does something special and i thought lostfox / wistiti claimed that in the by me above linked circuit diagram.
My tests of this circuit shows after 3 different build a max. efficiency of 80% and i understand from your comments that that is low.
So please show me a working setup that does better and i will try to replicate.

In the mean time, by all means try to be as creative and "out of the box thinking" as you possible can to reach the ultimate goal: "excess energy"



Regards Itsu







Hey Itsu - Please don't take this the wrong way, I mean to be constructive, not destructive!

In the last 2 years we have seen more proof, than ever before - I think we would have to agree on this point!

Because Graham Gunderson has the best measurement data and equipment I have to start with him first. We know pretty much everything there is that needs to be known about this device. Graham held no secrets, gave to the world all he knows about his MIT.

It is as I have said for 5 odd years, Three Coils:
   1: Input Coil - LCR Resonant, Reactive Power.
   2: Two Output Coils, Partnered Output Coils.
   3: A little bit of Circuitry for Timing.

Has anyone been able to replicate Grahams work, COP = 8.3 / 1.5 = 5.53, none have as of yet. At least as far as we know. Many are trying, but all gave up before getting to the Finish Line - Why do people give up so easy? Why do people even try, if they are not going to stick it out?

As Wistiti has pointed out, time is an issue, Income is another, and people just do not have enough patience and insight to get to the next step. Lack of fundamental observations, a total lack of proper understanding of fundamental concepts.

Look, I cant stress enough, the basic understanding is so extremely important! You need to understand basic Electromagnetic Induction, its a CRITICAL basic step, you need to know what you're working towards - I have tried to explain this so many times, provided a TON of Data, Videos and Papers from our piers!

Graham Gunderson tells you the same things, watch carefully his videos, look at the differences from the First one to the Second one, Graham makes a massive swing to Electromagnetic Induction as the main principles although he does briefly cover them in the first video.

Energy is Pumped not Made in the Inductor, after all, what is an Inductor, what's the definition?

Quote

noun: inductor; plural noun: inductors

1. A component in an electric or electronic circuit which possesses inductance.

2. A substance that promotes an equilibrium reaction by reacting with one of the substances produced.




Ok, what's an Inductance?



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/ɪnˈdʌkt(ə)ns/

noun Physics

noun: inductance; plural noun: inductances


the property of an electric conductor or circuit that causes an electromotive force to be generated by a change in the current flowing.
"the inductance of the winding"


•a component with the property of inductance.




Again this is basic fundamentals, if you want it, you're going to have to learn some of this, unless you're super lucky and get it right the first time. Then you wont be able to replicate it or trouble shoot it if needed.

Energy comes from Mass/Energy Equivalence! It is Einstein's E = MC2 - I have covered this so many times in the last two years, here. See: http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg469023/#msg469023


96 Times is the max downloads of the Documents I provide there, no one is interested except those 96 people. it should be 1 Million by now!


Quote from: EMJunkie on December 20, 2015, 01:55:01 AM
After some 439 Pages, I hope we have now got a message of hope through to people running blindly down dark alley ways!

Induction is Induction, Electrical Energy comes directly from Matter/Mass - This is known as Mass/Energy Equivalence! It is Einstein's E = MC2

Surely the supporting evidence I have provided give's at least some people a step in the right direction:

Electrical Energy 101 - Faradays Law of Induction - Part 1
Electrical Energy 101 - Faradays Law of Induction - Part 2
Electrical Energy 101 - Faradays Law of Induction - Part 3

Electric Motors DC Motors and Generators - Part 1 - 1961 US Army Training Film
Electric Motors AC Motors and Generators - Part 2 - 1961 US Army Training Film
Electricity & Electronics - Current - 1974 US Air Force Training Film
Electricity & Electronics - Voltage - 1974 US Air Force Training Film
How Magnets Produce Electricity - 1954 US Navy Training Film

So, two equations, two ways of Inducing an EMF in a Conductor: EMF = Bvl and EMF = dPhi/dt

Here I show you some basic first principals: Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation

and, some more Principles: Opposing Magnetic Field Interactions - Partnered Output Coil

Three Coils:
   1: Input Coil
   2: Partnered Output Coils - Two Coils working together to Self Assist in the Frequency of Operation!

A good example of this is given here: Partnered Output Coils: Anti-Lenz effect - from: Юрий Лиховид (Yuri Likhovid) - Orriginally invented by Wistiti - Partnered Output Coil Toroid Feb 25, 2015

Note: There must be Current flowing in the Partnered Output Coils for this to work!

Please, always remember, Lenz's Law is a Magnetic Drag, fix the Magnetic Drag and you have got Free Energy!!! Magnetic Field is Current Flowing in the Coil Conductor.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

P.S: When others are set in their ways, its not just their Potential that they limit, its others that listen to their advise. See with Logic and open Eyes, not through others.




Following a Schematic is not enough with this Tech!

All devices vary some what!

All devices will have different characteristics, these I can only put down to changes in Local Environment, Magnetic/Gravitational and other...

You need to, and cant get away from, fiddle to make this work, there is no way around it, like tuning a Guitar, three winds on the third string is not going to get you to a perfect G!!!


Its just silly to think this way!


ALL you need is:

   1: Three Inductors, one Input Coil, Two Output Coils - Partnered Output Coils
   2: A Source of Excitation - LC Resonance, or DC Switching of some kind on the Input Coil.
   3: Patience and Observations of the most basic fundamentals. Current directions, Turns, Field Strengths and so on.


I have learnt one thing I cant stress enough, if one can not replicate an experiment, its is by no means any sort of proof that the Device does not work, it's only proof that one's experiment has failed to replicate the Device.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


EMJunkie




I am quite disappointed that the Thread "http://overunity.com/16724/graham-gundersons-energy-conference-presentation-most-impressive-and-mysterious" has stalled. I can only imagine Graham is as disappointed if not more so!

Its really sad that you, the researches here, are potentially going to let this slip through your fingers. Its very sad that there has been some work on the Circuit and nearly no work on the device.

Like I said, a $14 Microcontroller could be used to generate the same signals, I even offered to program it!

Some Data I Posted Here: http://overunity.com/16724/graham-gundersons-energy-conference-presentation-most-impressive-and-mysterious/msg488374/#msg488374 - My initial guess at turns was not quite spot on:

No one has analysed the Coils, none have bought up any points about the device that are critical to understanding the device, all the important stuff, not one here has covered! Not one here has bought any important Data or analysis to the table at all!

E.G: Turn Ratio's which by the way is (Between 2:1 and 3:1 Approx - Step Down) - But, the Input Voltage is 312.7 and Output Voltage is only 9.46 Volts (Sync Rectification is the Reason)

Primary:
12 + 13 + 12 + 13 + 12 = 62 Turns, 75 Turns if another Layer of 13 is present. of Litz Wire, about #2 AWG (6.54304 mm) @ approx 0.512664 Ohms per KM.


Secondaries:
7 + 9 + 11 = 27 Turns x 4 Strand's of about #10 AWG X 2 Sets (Partnered Output Coils) - Each Set is divided into 3 Sets.


So you know, I have done a lot of this work, based on the Input:

Voltage: 312.7
Current: 1.647
Watts Active: 2.0

Phase Angle: 89.6982242524782 degrees. (Φ)
Inductive Reactance XL: 189.858 in Ohms. (Ω)
Capacitive Reactance XC: 189.857718695676 in Ohms. (Ω)
Impedance (Z): 0.999986129490823+j189.858 in Ohms. (Ω)
Inductance (L): 0.000604335888291346 Henries. (H)
Real Resistance: 0.999986129490823 in Ohms. (Ω)
LC Network Capacitance: 1.67657068867457E-13 in Farads. (F)

A quick check shows my figures are pretty close: V * I * COS(Theta) = 312.7 * 1.647 * COS(89.6982242524782) = 2.7125940123 Active Watts

My Error Margin is: +0.7125940123

No one here has detailed the Current Flows Graham has shown. Although some of it is incomplete, none has shown any Field Analysis! No one has calculated the Approx Inductances of the Coils!

If you people want it, you are really going to have to do a lot better than this!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


EMJunkie




If I were replicating the MIT - I would have started with the Output Coils.

I would have implemented LC Resonant Input Coil.

I would have looked at the Output Coil Circuit, studied it intensely and replicated that first! Which is what we just covered with thanks to John.K1, on the MrPreva Circuit. There is a lot of information to learn there. Opposing Current Flows in Coils like this, Partnered Output Coils, where Electromagnetic Induction is the Source leads to Power Gains greater than Unity, very clearly seen above!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


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