Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[Magluvin]

Without looking it up, and if memory serves, Eddy Currents are only a problem in Conductive Core Materials, use a Ferrite and the Eddy Current problem is no longer a problem in the Core.

I guess the "Eddy Current" phenomena is an easy one to solve. So if its not Eddy Currents, what else is the possible cause for what we are seeing?

I mean we cant give "Eddy Currents" the credit for what we are dealing with here.

   Chris Sykes
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P.S: I am really sorry, reading back, the use of: "less Magnetic Field on the Input" was really bad! I should have said instead: "the Input Coil has less Magnetising Turns" because the Turns N has less Current I through them.

It depends on how high the freq of operation is as to whether eddy currents happen within the winding dramatically or not. The eddy issue is always there, just more of a problem with larger wire and higher freq. So then came litz wire. The least amount of eddy effect in the wire as possible.

Mags

[EMJunkie]

It depends on how high the freq of operation is as to whether eddy currents happen within the winding dramatically or not. The eddy issue is always there, just more of a problem with larger wire and higher freq. So then came litz wire. The least amount of eddy effect in the wire as possible.

Mags

Hi Mags - Only in a Closed Circuit Conductor, but there is another name for this, Lenz's Law, Eddy Currents is derived from Lenz's Law, which is an addition to Faradays Law. Yes It is confusing.

Eddy currents (also called Foucault currents[1]) are loops of electrical current induced within conductors by a changing magnetic field in the conductor, due to Faraday's law of induction. Eddy currents flow in closed loops within conductors, in planes perpendicular to the magnetic field. They can be induced within nearby stationary conductors by a time-varying magnetic field created by an AC electromagnet or transformer, for example, or by relative motion between a magnet and a nearby conductor. The magnitude of the current in a given loop is proportional to the strength of the magnetic field, the area of the loop, and the rate of change of flux, and inversely proportional to the resistivity of the material.

By Lenz's law, an eddy current creates a magnetic field that opposes the magnetic field that created it, and thus eddy currents react back on the source of the magnetic field. For example, a nearby conductive surface will exert a drag force on a moving magnet that opposes its motion, due to eddy currents induced in the surface by the moving magnetic field. This effect is employed in eddy current brakes which are used to stop rotating power tools quickly when they are turned off. The current flowing through the resistance of the conductor also dissipates energy as heat in the material. Thus eddy currents are a cause of energy loss in alternating current (AC) inductors, transformers, electric motors and generators, and other AC machinery, requiring special construction such as laminated magnetic cores or ferrite cores to minimize them. Eddy currents are also used to heat objects in induction heating furnaces and equipment, and to detect cracks and flaws in metal parts using eddy-current testing instruments.

Thus, a Core Material is only susceptible to Eddy Currents if there is a Conductive Material used. Other wise no to very little Eddy Currents in the Core Material.

   Chris Sykes
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P.S: You're right, it is always there, and we should be thankful for that!!! Without Lenz's Law we would have no Electricity at all! Its a beast we can tame and use to do work for us is what I am saying!.

[barbosi]

Thus, a Core Material is only susceptible to Eddy Currents if there is a Conductive Material used. Other wise no to very little Eddy Currents in the Core Material.

As I said before:

So in about 100 years we have been disconnected from the progress made in the field:

1. Back in the Franklin's time, people used solid iron rods for their electromagnets.
2. In Tesla's time, it was known the benefit of lamination of the iron cores.
3. In his patent 524426, Tesla showed the effects of phase shift due to the reluctance of the cores (see  Naudin experiment) by interrupting the magnetic circuit.
4. Later Tesla got rid of the iron completely from the core of its coils.

But I guess you didn't consider it because I was addressing allcanadian.
Yet later:

1894: US Patent 524,426 (the one Naudin made the suggested tests)
1896: US Patent 555,190 Alternating Motor

These were the last patents where Tesla used in purpose the iron in the cores and in my opinion, it was only to secure the methods of AC machines as they were its babies.

At the turn of century as his work was complete, Tesla stepped away from iron cored machines. He still used them, same as we use them today. Same as some dentists nowadays are still using mercury amalgams in tooth cavities. We proudly call this: tradition.

1901: US Patent 685,953 Method Of Intensifying And Utilizing Effects Transmitted Through Natural Media (application filled 1899)
1901: US Patent 685,954 Method Of Utilizing Effects Transmitted Through Natural Media (application filled 1899)
1901: US Patent 685,953 Method Of Intensifying And Utilizing Effects Transmitted Through Natural Media (application filled 1900)
1901: US Patent 685,012 Means For Increasing The Intensity Of Electrical Oscillations (application filled 1900)

There was no iron in friggin' "Natural Media" and he was not "Increasing The Intensity Of Electrical Oscillations" to make apple candies...

We are still studying methods from 120 years ago using "Dog and Pony Show" methods distributed through youtube? That is in my view an abomination on itself, not mentioning the cheers and drooling from the gallery.

The Master himself delivered the study materials and if we cannot comprehend them, it is our fault. The solution is not to religiously watch mindless demonstrations from illiterates or Doctors alike and worship them as our heroes. We cannot drop into that condition as we want and need to evolve.

The invitation is for all of you. I know we all want solutions but it wont happen before we identify the real problem, then look into our options with our minds not scopes. It all requires our personal mental effort not books of the past. We still didn't figure out what Tesla was talking about and we still have problems with Lenz?

After so much time, talking to Magluvin you came to conclusion:

P.S: You're right, it is always there, and we should be thankful for that!!! Without Lenz's Law we would have no Electricity at all! Its a beast we can tame and use to do work for us is what I am saying!.

I would add that we have now a method too for controlling of what could zap us.
I guess it's about time to bury the war hatchet by apologizing to the drag queens you didn't pay attention.

[EMJunkie]

There is a catch here however, the Magnetic Field is changing in time, and as we know a Changing Magnetic Field in the presence of a properly arranged Inductor Induces an EMF via Faradays Law of Electromagnetic Induction.

This means as we draw Current on the Output, the Input drops in Current, less Magnetic Field on the Input, but the Output arrangement is compensating and the magnetic Field Is also compensated for. So the TOTAL Magnetic Flux in the core has a steady average over time.

@Brad - Floyd Sweet put it best:

The feedback loop: Previously mentioned, you will more clearly see how the loop functions at the time you see the physical construction of the stationary armature of stator assembly. The underlying principal (forget Millikan's experiment) has been derived in that magnetic effects vary on the square of the current. As the load on the machine increases, the volt-ampere product increases. The rate of flow of charges increases. Quantum mechanics state not all electrons in copper are free to carry charges. Then it's time to set the wheels in motion to free them from binding magnetic forces. Once this is done, conductivity will improve and resistance decrease as we are dealing only with electrons. Copper will not change to another metal as atoms which are mostly empty space would have many electrons to spare anyway. To free enough electrons to effect conversion would require magnetic forces approaching infinity.

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Losses diminish and more charges drawn from the now coherent space field flow at a faster rate as current to the load. This means as more current is required by varying loads more feedback magnetomotive forces free more electrons from binding forces complimented by potential magnetic forces of the orientated, coherent space field.

You know, I never get tired of reading Floyd Sweets Papers.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

Millikan's experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMfYHag7Liw

The oil drop experiment was performed by Robert A. Millikan and Harvey Fletcher in 1909 to measure the elementary electric charge (the charge of the electron).

The experiment entailed observing tiny charged droplets of oil between two horizontal metal electrodes. First, with zero applied electric field, the terminal velocity of a droplet was measured. At terminal velocity, the drag force equals the gravitational force, and these depend on the radius in different ways, so that the radius of the droplet, and therefore the mass and gravitational force, could be determined (using the known density of the oil). Then an adjustable voltage was applied between the plates to induce an electric field, and the voltage was adjusted until the drops were suspended in mechanical equilibrium, indicating that the electrical force and the gravitational force were balanced. Now using the known electric field, Millikan and Fletcher could determine the charge on the oil droplet. By repeating the experiment for many droplets, they confirmed that the charges were all small integer multiples of a certain base value, which was found to be 1.5924(17)×10−19 C, less than a 1% difference from the currently accepted value of 1.602176487(40)×10−19 C.[1] They proposed that this was the (negative of the) charge of a single electron.

   Chris Sykes
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