Open Systems

[LibreEnergia]

As much as id like to Mark, im on vacation. But I must ask-what energy do you think is going to leave the gas when the piston is opperated?

Are you clueless? it would seem so. What happens has been described to you many times already.

Work is converted to heat and vice versa.

As the piston advances it hits the particles with greater momentum than when it is at rest. Since the collisions are fairly elastic, most of that momentum is transferred to the gas particles making them go faster. Faster particles means more heat. Fairly simple really. The opposite happens when decompressing the gas.

[MarkE]

Are you clueless? it would seem so. What happens has been described to you many times already.

Work is converted to heat and vice versa.

As the piston advances it hits the particles with greater momentum than when it is at rest. Since the collisions are fairly elastic, most of that momentum is transferred to the gas particles making them go faster. Faster particles means more heat. Fairly simple really. The opposite happens when decompressing the gas.

It is also rather convenient, because it's what has been driving the industrial world for 200 years.

[tinman]

Are you clueless? it would seem so. What happens has been described to you many times already.

Work is converted to heat and vice versa.

As the piston advances it hits the particles with greater momentum than when it is at rest. Since the collisions are fairly elastic, most of that momentum is transferred to the gas particles making them go faster. Faster particles means more heat. Fairly simple really. The opposite happens when decompressing the gas.

It is you that is clueless.
Im refering to the gas pushing the piston down, not the piston compressing the gas. This brings the point that you simply dont understand equal and opposites. If the gas is pushing on the piston, then the piston is also pushing on the gas just as hard. So as the pressure bjilds, then so dose the heat. So, the heavier the load, the faster the pressure builds.
Do you not understand equal and opposite reactions LE?

So I ask once again-what energy do you think is going to leave the gas when that gas is used to force the piston down?

[profitis]

Please consult the diagram above gentlmen.its the same fucking thing

[LibreEnergia]

It is you that is clueless.
Im refering to the gas pushing the piston down, not the piston compressing the gas. This brings the point that you simply dont understand equal and opposites. If the gas is pushing on the piston, then the piston is also pushing on the gas just as hard. So as the pressure bjilds, then so dose the heat. So, the heavier the load, the faster the pressure builds.
Do you not understand equal and opposite reactions LE?

So I ask once again-what energy do you think is going to leave the gas when that gas is used to force the piston down?

Yes I understand 'equal and opposite reactions' perfectly well.

If the gas is pushing a piston AND it moves then there is  net force in the direction of travel of the cylinder. A force multiplied by distance travelled is work.

The amount of heat equal to the integral of  F.ds LEAVES the gas.

The mechanism by which this happens is as I have described before.