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Overunity Machines Forum



Minato Motor Modification

Started by juspot82, September 25, 2006, 01:29:15 PM

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Paul-R

Quote from: juspot82 on September 29, 2006, 11:27:38 AM
@ Tropes
The Bowman wheel was way too complicated. The simpler you design it the better.

Occam's razor.

mikestocks2006

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on September 27, 2006, 09:50:57 PM
Quote from: tropes on September 27, 2006, 08:36:49 PM
Juspot
Your idea of an attracting force to overcome the "stick spot" is one that has merit. Check out the Bowman file at http://www.fdp.nu/bowman/default.asp. The Bowman wheel used an "actuator" and a "helper magnet". I think this is a necessary part of any successful PMM.
Tropes

http://www.fdp.nu/bowman/follow-up.asp?URL=follow-up.asp


Amazing!!! I was laying out a design like the one by Thomas Goerz (VaporWings)
http://www.fdp.nu/bowman/follow-up.asp?URL=follow-up.asp
Thx for the link
Almost identical but with one exception and that was also the reason recently I took interest in Gary's motor patents and shields/shielding materials etc.

So take the exact setup as the one shown by T. Goerz and add the following:
A shield placed vertically between the two magnet mounting disks, The shield starts at the base and is up to and slightly above the center line level of the rotating disks. It is placed between the magnets and it is stationary. It is also placed at the Neutral Plane that the opposing magnets would define as they face each other. (The distance between the disks and/or magnet positioning on them may have to be adjusted so the neutral lines match)

The idea is, as the magnets rotate the maximum repulsion will be when they both face each other above the shield?s top edge. While they are bellow the shield?s top edge they are ?shielded? from each other effectively reducing the slowing down forces as the disks rotate.

mikestocks2006

BTW Does anyone know how to contact Thomas Goerz?. There is no contact info on that site.
TIA

tropes

Mikestocks
I'm glad to see some good come from the many hours of work that went into the Bowman project. I have done some work using Mumetal as a shield on an actuator that I built a few years ago. The diagram and the wheel I used it on can be found here:http://www.fdp.nu/otherwheels/default.asp .I am still working on the same cam setup as is posted here but now I am using a pulse motor as the actuator. I have a photo of the actuator as well. If you are interested I will upload it to one of my sites.
Tropes

Gregory

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on September 28, 2006, 11:13:00 PM
A horizontal design would remove gravity from the equation though. My key component in this design is the kinetic energy of a roller coaster. In roller coaster physics a cart dropped from 100 feet should always be able to release its energy and reachive a height of 90 feet on a straight low friction track. Now when gravity pulls down on the magnetic cart the mass adds kinetic energy to the cart and the field accecerates the wheel. My hopes are that the extra energy gathered by the spiral starors will allow the cart to reach its drop height or higher.

About the piston concept: The friction involved in maintaining the timing of the piston would be greater then the enerergy required to coast a cart on bearings. I have animted the concept as per your request.

Dingus,
Thanks for the anim, good. You may very right in your explanation about the coaster vs. piston designs. In fact, I don't know to much about roller costers. I more believe in the "piston" design just for some unknown reason, and intuition. The why is even not clear for me.