Is Newton's Law At Risk?

[gravityblock]

One could add an additional generator to the left of the motor with a properly orientated one way bearing to capture both the forward and reverse motions without any appearant counter torque.  The left generator can capture the forward motion and the right generator can capture the reverse motion.


Nobody has tried to debunk this yet,....hmmm.....interesting!


Gravock

[telecom]

I think Vince on this forum built similar machine.

[gravityblock]

I think Vince on this forum built similar machine.

I don't think you correctly understand the basic working principles and concepts of whoopy's replication.  The motor isn't inducing the net torque on the flywheel.  The net torque on the flywheel is induced by the inertia of the unbalanced gears!

Please study the motionless axis (#6 in the below image and the snapshot in the video by Whoopy).  The unbalanced gears induces an oscillation, and the oscillations causes the motionless axis to oscillate the pulley which it sits on, transferring a net torque to the flywheel via the rope.  The rope/string has no net movement itself, and this is a clear indication that there is no counter torque on the prime mover or motor, thus a violation of Newton's third law.

This is an inertial drive!  Please show me a working inertial drive built on this forum which is similar to the machine found in the video of the OP.

Gravock

[telecom]

I don't think you correctly understand the basic working principles and concepts of whoopy's replication.  The motor isn't inducing the net torque on the flywheel.  The net torque on the flywheel is induced by the inertia of the unbalanced gears!

Please study the motionless axis (#6 in the below image and the snapshot in the video by Whoopy).  The unbalanced gears induces an oscillation, and the oscillations causes the motionless axis to oscillate the pulley which it sits on, transferring a net torque to the flywheel via the rope.  The rope/string has no net movement itself, and this is a clear indication that there is no counter torque on the prime mover or motor, thus a violation of Newton's third law.

This is an inertial drive!  Please show me a working inertial drive built on this forum which is similar to the machine found in the video of the OP.

Gravock

This sounds interesting - I didn't have the time yet to study  papers you referred to.
Regards

[Low-Q]

I don't think you correctly understand the basic working principles and concepts of whoopy's replication.  The motor isn't inducing the net torque on the flywheel.  The net torque on the flywheel is induced by the inertia of the unbalanced gears!

Please study the motionless axis (#6 in the below image and the snapshot in the video by Whoopy).  The unbalanced gears induces an oscillation, and the oscillations causes the motionless axis to oscillate the pulley which it sits on, transferring a net torque to the flywheel via the rope.  The rope/string has no net movement itself, and this is a clear indication that there is no counter torque on the prime mover or motor, thus a violation of Newton's third law.

This is an inertial drive!  Please show me a working inertial drive built on this forum which is similar to the machine found in the video of the OP.

Gravock

I understand it completely. If you're right about the oscillation is the only reason why the CD-motor spins, you don't need a motor at all. You could just make a gear between the two purple flywheels and start spinning it by hand and released them. They would then power the CD-motor with its frictional loss forever. However, that will not happen. If you try it you will soon enough understand that you are some how mislead to think this is OU.
When you load an oscillation system, the initially 180 degree phase shift between inertia and movement will reduce to less than 180 degrees. Therfor this oscillation system will stop oscillate.


A good demonstration of this is to be found in my video here. As soon as I load the oscillation the wheel stop sooner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3RAL-SWjc


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