How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW

[seychelles]

well theyare selling these darn things in germany of all place , what are they
going to north korea when the first customer find out it is a fake.. come on..
no not north korea because this dictator is exterminating even his grand mother.

[memoryman]

They are taking deposits; not a single unit has been produced.

[seychelles]

ok forget about archaic ideas and check out my briliant crescendo meg..
on tinman.s page and let me know if it is a flop..

[lumen]

Let me make this very simple for you:  The water container is passive:  It does not make energy.  The water is passive:  It does not make energy.  The mechanical bits in the water container are passive: They do not make energy.  What you get out is less than you put in.  If it came out in a form that is useful as opposed to the form that it went in, then the losses are a cost of doing business.  But here we have electricity into an air compressor and energy out of an electrical generator.  All the Rube Goldberg stuff in the middle just insures taht the electrical energy out is a small percentage of the electrical energy in.  The device is massively outperformed by a simple wire.

When I see a device that someone claims works I don't usually look for the reasons it cannot work because they a fully understood, I look first to what they could possibly do to make it work as claimed.

So in view of that I was simply examining a method (possibly the only method) this device could overcome all it's losses, and I agree there are many.

If a tank is under 20 feet of water and you fill it with air to purge the water, then the energy extracted by floating to the surface would be the same as the energy you put into purging the tank minus some losses.

However, if I use the air in the tank to run an air motor and generator, I have recovered some energy + that of the tank floating to the surface.
If I use the compressed air in the tank even more wisely by filling the next tank, then the losses are further reduced and the gain is even greater.
Time will tell if they have reached that goal.

[memoryman]

1: the air at the bottom needs to be at a higher pressure than at the top, so the air at the top cannot be used to partially pressurise the bottom float.
2: if the system is optimally configured, the air in the top float will be near atmospheric pressure; remember that water has to replace that air.