Permanent magnet motor

[ayeaye]

Put a paper on it, and iron filings on that paper, then you see what is the shape of the magnetic field, and you see the field lines. Iron filings are, if you have a file, and a piece of iron, such as a nail. File that piece of iron, and gather the iron powder that comes out of it, this is the iron filings. Each is like a tiny magnet, and they arrange in lines.

PS These white patches on that disk, these are pieces of mounting tape. Get some mounting tape, like that one from harbor freight http://www.harborfreight.com/8-1-2-half-ft-x-3-4-quarter-inch-double-sided-tape-45882.html . This is a thick, double sided adhesive tape. You can put all kind of things together with it, and it holds them together very strongly. You can take these pieces of mounting tape off, and put on again. It is like used instead of a glue, but it's better than glue in that it's easier to use, doesn't make everything dirty like a glue does, and it can be easily removed from just everything. But most importantly, it enables arrangements that can be adjusted, and can be easily changed. This is especially important for experiments.

[MagnaProp]

Thanks. I'll give that and the double sided tape a try.

[ayeaye]

Thanks. I'll give that and the double sided tape a try.

If you fail with something, please say too. This is important too, maybe equally important as success. The others know then what not to do, and don't waste their time.

I said i go to electronics, but i practically failed. Some people say things like, induced energy is not the energy that induced it. They are absolutely irresponsible, they don't understand induction at all. This is why i had to understand the theory of induction, It is interaction between electrons and dipoles, not dissimilar to the interaction between dipoles in magnets. As there is some evidence of overunity in magnets, then there should also be some in induction. But not in every kind of induction, in the ordinary coils and transformers there likely is none.

So now, if i will continue the research, i had to go to the pancake coils. Which is weird in that, i may even not need all the knowledge in electronics and oscilloscope, for that. I may do with a capacitor, resistor, and multimeter. Maybe i still need though.

There are some claims of overunity with pancake coils, using induction ovens. Simply they put a pancake coil on the induction oven, and claim that they get more energy out, than they put in. There are some other claims that pancake coils with some frequency have a rotating magnetic field.

I have my own idea what it may be caused by. I suspect pancake coils may in a way work like the faraday's homopolar generator, or n-machine. Inducing some dc current which has no lenz effect. So they may amplify current. There is though a lot to understand, what exactly happens there.

MagnaProp, or in fact anyone else. If you don't succeed in what you try, please replicate my field lines chain experiment with magnets. This experiment is very important for theoretical reasons, not obly about overunity in magnets, but it gives reason to say that there may also be overunity in induction, flowing liquids, maybe even in electrolysis, everywhere where there are atoms. It is about researching the same thing, atoms, which act like dipoles in magnetic interaction.

Replicating an experiment is very important. This is as important as doing your own experiment, and often helps to develop things further. All what matters in the research like this, is replicating the experiments. Because there is no way to prove by video or by any other means, that there is no fake. Only replicating the experiment b several people, confirms the results. Because it is not likely that many people fake. And even if many people fake, then this makes it easy to reveal what the fake is about, because they don't do the things exactly the same way.

It is very weird, my magnets experiments gives evidence of overunity, yet it is not replicated by anyone. You believe me, and thank you for that, but believing in me is not the way to prove. I know it's dull to replicate another experiment, but one should understand the importance of replicating.

Some of you are good people, i know, it makes my heart to melt to see how much you try. Only to do the research the right way, and we get results.

I failed in my induction experiment, but i paved a way to others, so that they will not have the lack of knowledge i had.

[MagnaProp]

If you fail with something, please say too. This is important too, maybe equally important as success...

I agree. I think it's more important than success. It gives a clue as to what not to do which can be easily dismissed if all we are interested in is the successes. I was also looking at adding some electricity with alnico permanent magnets. Give them enough juice and the poles switch. So I was thinking fewer alnico magnets could do more work since the electrical switch time is brief and the on time of repulsion or attraction that we need is all for free since they are permanent magnets. I show 4 magnets here but I don't see why it couldn't be done with just one for even less power consumption. I guess they would have to be switched twice briefly which doesn't sound good. If we can add power to cencel them out briefly, that might be better.

[guest1289]

Just 2 ideas,  I had to post.

[  IDEA NUMBER 1 :   This idea is too far-fetched,   but I am posting it anyway .
         Some of you will remember,  how in this thread, we tried to find the explanation of why a Faraday-Motor just powered by permanent-magnets,  will not work   .
       For me,  the explanation is that the interaction between 2 permanent-magnets contain no toothed-wheels,  whereas,  the interaction between a magnet and the field of an electrical conductor, just might. 
         The electrical-conductor may be toothed-wheel-1,  and it may induce( via induction ) some sort of toothed-wheel-2  in the magnet in the Faraday-motor  )
      So,  I designed the magnet-motor below : -
     - 'New type of magnet motor'
          The new principle for this magnet motor is applied to both the
rotating-magnet ,  and also to the stator-magnet/magnets of
this motor .
      The aim of this idea is to copy what happens in flowing currents
of water when their is an object ( pebble ) obstructing their path,
the pebble will cause either of two effects :
      -  the water will deflect of the pebble in a spray
      -  or,  the water may pulsate( take different paths around the
pebble)  of, and,  around,  the pebble,  in regular, or randomly timed
pulses .
       To achieve/copy this effect with magnets,  you could make
composite magnets,  where small-magnets( or other materials ) are inserted into the surface
of a larger-magnet,  to create  'pebbles'.
        THEN,  the magnetic spray ( or pulsing ) would provide the necessary
traction between the rotating-magnet ,  and the stator-magnet/magnets of this motor ,   because,   the  rotating-magnet ,  and the stator-magnet/magnets of this motor,  will be facing in opposite directions .
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  [    IDEA NUMBER 2 :  IN THE DIAGRAM BELOW,   I modified my magnet-motor which I first presented in    http://overunity.com/15860/can-anyone-identify-this-mystery-magnet-motor-or-provide-any-information/msg454842/#msg454842     ]