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Overunity Machines Forum



Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor

Started by DreamThinkBuild, July 05, 2015, 05:31:08 PM

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Cadman

No need to be a smart ass. I've studied it enough to know what I said about that video is true and the motor was a crippled version.

And no I don't know exactly how it worked, no one does because there are obviously missing components as evidenced by the empty attachment points.

I do have a theory, based on the video evidence and experience, solid enough to put my money where my mouth is. Is my theory right? Don't know yet. A build is in the works.

Cadman

nix85

Well, you sure sounded like a smart ass. You could've put that energy into figuring out and building the system rather than empty words. And no, video is not completely off, in the worst case it's got basic, obvious components right. For details, as you say yourself, you are not sure.

Unlike what you're trying to make it appear, this system is not really complicated, pulling the steel bar at proper time to avert the sticky point is the key point and everyone knows that. The rest is precise machining and placement of parts.

Cadman

You made me chuckle! Now who is talking like they know all about it. What basic obvious components does the video have right? Hmm? Name them.

How am I trying to make it appear complicated?

"Pulling the steel bar at proper time to avert the sticky point is the key point and everyone knows that."
Really? I guess I have it all wrong then.

"You could've put that energy into figuring out and building the system rather than empty words."
Take your own advice.


nix85

Quote from: Cadman on April 02, 2022, 02:59:53 PM
You made me chuckle!

You made me laugh out loud since your first rant.

QuoteNow who is talking like they know all about it. What basic obvious components does the video have right? Hmm? Name them.

Did i say i know it all, no. I clearly said i do NOT know are magnets polarized along the long axis, are there stator magnets or not.... but basic components are obviously C shaped alnico magnets and steel stator bars on springs..did you even watch the original video with Mr Luling Stephan translated. Are you denying these are the basic components lol.

QuoteHow am I trying to make it appear complicated?

You talk about it as if there is some mystery in it only you figured out while it is in reality as Mr Luling says, simply pulling the steel away just before magnet is about to stick, carrot and the donkey effect, no big mystery, just a lot of precise engineering.

Quote"Pulling the steel bar at proper time to avert the sticky point is the key point and everyone knows that."
Really? I guess I have it all wrong then.

God knows how you have it, you never said what's your "theory".

Quote"You could've put that energy into figuring out and building the system rather than empty words."
Take your own advice.

You started the useless rant so indeed, you wasted your time and energy and now you're wasting mine and everybody else's.

Ufopolitics

Quote from: nix85 on April 01, 2022, 02:49:35 PM
This guy shows how he thinks Luling motor is constructed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGx_XQTOHw

Key point being that magnets are magnetized along the long axis. I believe this way there is less tendency for sticking.

But i am not sure if there are stator magnets as he shows.

Anyway i don't think anyone should build a magnet motor and then fight against lenz.

I see em as toys, a waste of time.


Hello Nix85,


Sorry, but that video is absurd, makes no sense at all.


There must be Neutralization of magnetic field forces, before even starting to put it together, whether is CAD or in a Real Build, guy don't even mentions that word...


These motors are not build to beat Lenz...they are built to prove magnets do have energy and usable.


And you are under estimating the forces in Magnetic Fields...


My Build, has been the best so far ever replicating the Lüling Magnet Motor (modesty aside...lol)...as a matter of fact, I went above his RPM´s (298) to 415 RPM´s....and I am only using "one module" built so far...as Lüling has Four Modules in his running prototype.


Lüling uses either Pneumatic or could even be Hydraulics (too slow in my opinion) to make required reciprocations to brake neutralization at the perfect timing...


Lüling was applying this reciprocations of the steel arc (seen on the running prototype) in order to brake neutral point before reaching sticky point.




Cheers






Ufopolitics




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytCVQ-OZZmM




PD: I am not trying to start any new discussion here...just rendering my opinion.
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