Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas

[guest1289]

Your work is too advanced for me to fully understand,  especially the examination of current-properties,  and resonance/oscillation/frequency-properties .

(  Since that device has electrical input,  and you are examining the properties of the input and output currents,  I cannot fully understand the results,  since I have no experience in that area,  I can understand some of it   )

Although I think this thread may be a little bit different to a 'question' I have been wondering,   because I think you are examining  resonance/oscillation/frequency(  the name of the thread  ),  and yet whenever I look at it,  it seems the same as my question .

[  For my 'question',  there should be  no  electrical-input( or earth-vibrations ) .   
In the following post(  http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg469597/#msg469597 ) I posted some Very-Very-Simple levitation designs,  and am informed that although they could function,  they would always be unstable( or vibrate ) due to  'Earnshaw's Theorem',   so,  it occured to me that if  the instability( vibration ) would  'NOT'  be due to the vibration-from-the-earth( it always vibrates on a small scale ) then the instability( vibration ) could be due to the interaction of the magnets,   and if that is correct,  it could be Perpetual-Motion/Free-Energy,  and a  special-device could be designed to maximize the instability ( vibration ) along just one axis,  in order to harness the Perpetual-Motion/Free-Energy .   Very-Similar to your device and work .
       My  question  would be impossible to answer,  because there is no way to eliminate the vibration-from-the-earth  in order to answer it  ]

  [  Now it has made me wonder what happens when two same-magnetic-poles( N facing N ) face each other,  would the result be like two air-fans or water-hoses facing each other,  so the air/water splashes out to the sides in all kinds of random directions,  could that be harnessed as  Perpetual-Motion/Free-Energy,  could that be viewed with one of those  magnetic-field-viewers.  I assume the theorized magnetic-vortex cannot be viewed with  magnetic-field-viewers   ]

  It would be interesting how much further you could improve your results,  and it's interesting that   gravity  is a key factor in the functioning of your device (  what would a space-version look like , or could you just place your device  horizontally ),  advanced and complex

[Berto3]

Thanks guest1289 for your reply. You are asking something I have to find out in the first place. At this moment I am investigating the behavior of 'free piston' magnets; how they react at each other and the bump magnets. Slight changes in the frequency and pulswidth in the induction coil can result in a kind of constructive interference in the movement of the magnets. I try to follow the principles of soundwaves in a hollow tube or the behavior of radiowaves at an antenna in order to achieve resonance. The limitation of the resonator is the mass of the magnets; resonance occurs below 10 hz. With smaller permanent magnets i can reach higher frequenties but a very small swing. 
Till now I have only done experiments to find out the best setup for the mechanical resonance of the linear magnetic resonator. The question is coming now. What are the conditions to realise self oscillation of the resonator by using magneto mechanical means? The whole system has a loss. The way I go to overcome this is the use of a high frequence (shortcut) 'switchpump' in the pickup coils. For this reason I made bifilar windings to enhance the output of the coils. This is the electric resonance pathway of the resonator.
Later I come back at this and more 'questions' about this device because I have to leave now.     

[Berto3]

Back again. Guest 1289, you are wondering what happens to the flux field at the position where 2 magnets, with the north- or south poles facing, rebound. What happens to the flux field when this happens quick and strong, just before the magnets touch each other. You took the example of two fans or two water hoses opposite to each other. Air and water are free flowing, and there is gravity and pressure in play. The magnetic field is not only concentrated around the magnet but also bound to it. But is that true? I don't know. With my simple magnetic field viewer I can only see the static situation. I can imagine that things happen according to an antenna where the electromagnetic field is thrown away from the antenna into space. What I have to find out is; if and how my pickup coils act (or react) to the bouncing of two of the same poles. Does this energetic flux field flow into my coils?
All the magnets in the resonator are set in repel mode. In resonance they pass the pickup coil with maximal swing and so producing the maximal flux and output. What happens to the energy the bouncing is setting free? I have to do more investigation. Sometimes you can hear the magnets touching each other in the resonator, what power is there in play? Ever tried to push two neodymium magnets in repel together? Maybe there is another way to convert this 'extra work' to usable 'free' energy.
Berto   

[guest1289]

It would be interesting to see how long your device could run on a battery,   like the  "Oxford Electric Bell" (  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Electric_Bell,   it's oscillation frequency is 2 hertz ) which has been running since 1840,  and there is also another device .

I wonder if electricity is being wasted in your device,  in order to work against gravity,  if it was true,  could it function horizontally,  and it could just glide/levitate across a magnetic-surface,  see the image,  posted below .

Yes, your'e right of course, the magnetic-field is bound to the magnet,  and behaves like a rubber-balloon-full-of-air around the magnet,  so it can squashed and bent by other magnets .

You tried to see if there is any dynamic-movement in the fields between two same-magnetic-poles facing each other,  with your field-viewer,  and saw that the fields remain still
(  I wonder if there might be an exact middle-plane/area between two same-magnetic-poles,  facing each other, where there may be some dynamic-movement,  that might be view-able with  iron-filings( contained in a flat hollow transparent container ) between the two magnets,  or even in some type of ferrofluid  setup  )

(  Imagine two plastic-hollow-pipes,  the two pipes are placed right next to each other,   one magnet is propelled inside pipe-1 to the right-direction,  and the other magnet is propelled inside pipe-2 to the left-direction,  ( it is two same-magnetic-poles( magnets ) facing each other, N facing N, or S facing S ),   so,   as they pass each other in the middle-point of the pipes,  could that strong reaction cause the 2 magnets to  pulse-each-other,  normally,  you can only pulse a permanent-magnet using electricity ,  but,  magnets are also metal,   and one magnet,  could possible induce a strong enough brief current in another magnet to pulse it  ,  and when you electrically-pulse a magnet,  you multiply the strength of it's magnetic-field by many-many times .   )

(  So, if one normal-permanent-magnet could induce a pulse in another normal-magnet,  the pulsed magnet should emit a brief radio signal,  detectable with an antena ( or with your coils ). 
In the last few years, I learnt that radio-signals are infact composed of photons,  and of course we cannot see radio-signals because they are at the wrong frequency for us to see them.  So,  obviously,  electro-magnets,  work by using photons,   but the thing I cannot understand is,  what about normal-permanent-magnets,  there is no reason for them to emit photons,  so how do their magnetic-fields work,  and yet the fields of  electro-magnets  and  normal-permanent-magnets  seem so similar,  or the same  )

I am told that the very-simple magnetic-levitation 'design'  in the diagram below,  could work,  but it would not be stable-levitation, it would be continuously-vibrating,  because  'Earnshaw's Theorem' proved in his mathematics that it would be continuously-vibrating ( even if,  the vibration may be very hard for a person to see ),  so,  if Earnshaw proved that the vibration would continue, until the magnets wear out,  then surely  that would be a  magnet-motor,  which is 'Proven' by 'Samuel Earnshaw' .

[sm0ky2]

(  So, if one normal-permanent-magnet could induce a pulse in another normal-magnet,  the pulsed magnet should emit a brief radio signal,  detectable with an antena ( or with your coils ). 
In the last few years, I learnt that radio-signals are infact composed of photons,  and of course we cannot see radio-signals because they are at the wrong frequency for us to see them.  So,  obviously,  electro-magnets,  work by using photons,   but the thing I cannot understand is,  what about normal-permanent-magnets,  there is no reason for them to emit photons,  so how do their magnetic-fields work,  and yet the fields of  electro-magnets  and  normal-permanent-magnets  seem so similar,  or the same  )

Not photons, in the way we think of light, but more similar to an energy-packet analysis of a photon.
It is still energy radiation, by classical definition, but does not contain many of the aspects we attribute to visible light.

the space around a moving magnet experiences a flux, or change in magnetic intensity, with respect to the ambient field.
without an inductor present(in a different inertial frame of reference) to experience this flux, theres no real "change" in energy.
The exception to this, would be the interaction with another field.
For instance, here on earth, a moving magnet is opposed by or contributed to by, the Earth's ambient field.

I am told that the very-simple magnetic-levitation 'design'  in the diagram below,  could work,  but it would not be stable-levitation, it would be continuously-vibrating,  because  'Earnshaw's Theorem' proved in his mathematics that it would be continuously-vibrating ( even if,  the vibration may be very hard for a person to see ),  so,  if Earnshaw proved that the vibration would continue, until the magnets wear out,  then surely  that would be a  magnet-motor,  which is 'Proven' by 'Samuel Earnshaw' .

I'm not sure a motor analogy applies here. At least, not in the sense of a usable force.
The force causing the motion in a quasi-stable levitation event, is very small.
close to the moment of inertia of the levitating object.
This presents no usable excess force to be obtained from said motion.
To interfere with it, would change the force and vector of the vibration.