Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.

[tinman]

I don't see the fun in this challenge!

You could achieve 95 to 97% of your input from flyback with those conditions.
How could this be fair if you tell Brad what he has to use and you can chose what ever you wish?

Don't go for it Brad... unless you fire up your RT v3

Luc

The RT V3 will not be playing a part in this Luc, but you will get to see my latest desig and build of the LAG-if it comes to that. But lets just say that Poynt will have to be up at around the 96% efficiency mark before we start any fine tuning-and that is discounting the small air screw being driven at 2350rpm.

Brad

[poynt99]

Sure-you know me-I never back down from a challenge.

But first you must finnish the challenge you have already voluntarily half completed--> and that is to get your simulated setup to replicate my results from my DUT. That is-to get the output current-power to increase when the input current-power is decreased.
Once you have answered and completed that challenge you put upon your self, then we can set the ! Apples for Apples! parameters for the next challenge.

You will of course be required to build an actual device for the next challenge-as I do. And you will be required to post a video here on this thread of your device under test, and the results obtained from that test during the video--> as I do.

So yes, im up for the challenge as long as we are on equal ground.


Brad.

Huh? Your response to my challenge is another challenge?

My challenge stands.

My simulation was an attempt to explain what is going on in the circuit, but it has nothing to do with my challenge to you. Why would you base your acceptance of my challenge on me being able to exactly replicate your results in my sim? 

I already told you, so listen good. I am not going to spend any more time on that sim OK? It requires extensive tweaking to get magnetics to work properly in a sim, and I have better things to do with my time. I would much prefer to build a real flyback supply to go up against your ssg rotor setup. So it is up to you, take it or leave it.

[tinman]

Huh? Your response to my challenge is another challenge?

My challenge stands.

My simulation was an attempt to explain what is going on in the circuit, but it has nothing to do with my challenge to you. Why would you base your acceptance of may other challenge on me being able to exactly replicate your results in my sim? 

I already told you, so listen good. I am not going to spend any more time on that sim OK? It requires extensive tweaking to get magnetics to work properly in a sim, and I have better things to do with my time. I would much prefer to build a real flyback supply to go up against your ssg rotor setup. So it is up to you, take it or leave it.

Poynt
You know as well as i do(along with everyone else here) as to why you put together your sim to try and replicate my DUT. It was to show(or try to)me that there was nothing special going on with my DUT. This was a challenge you bought upon your self,and you either can or cannot back up that challenge with results. I mean,if i have nothing out of the ordinary going on,and it is an everyday situation,then why must you spend so much time trying to tweak your sim to show these !nothing out of the ordinary! results.  I think you should finish one challenge before you take on the next one

I have accepted your challenge on the grounds that you first finalize your!self induced! first challenge--so as we can all see the result's from that one first.  Remember-you bought that one on your self,in the hope of showing me(and others) that my DUT was showing nothing out of the ordinary. So you either admit to not being able to replicate my results on your sim,or you spend the time to achieve the result you were hoping to show.

If you dont finalize the first challenge,then it looks like you are just moving on to the next one -and so on until you find one that succeeds. Thats not in the spirit of the research we do here. Turn the tables around Poynt--put your self in my position. Would you be that happy if i just said--no,im not finishing that one,as it dose not show what i am saying is true --I'll have to keep looking until i find something that fits. How can you say that you dont have the time to finish one challenge,but have the time to take on another one?--make no sense.

So that is my offer-take it or leave it.
Finnish the first challenge that you took upon your self to prove me wrong,and lets all see the results from that,and then we can start our next challenge--that was also offered by your self.

I have had !some! members of these forums say i never finish a project,or take it to the end,so as we can see the end result's. So now it's time for you to take that on board,and finish the one you started,and share the end results.


Brad

[poynt99]

Brad,

That's an extremely poor reason not to accept my challenge, and will be perceived as a cop-out.

So be it. You didn't have much of a chance anyway.

Carry on believing you have something extraordinary with your ssg rotor setup if you wish, but proof will be in the pudding, whether you can make anything extraordinary of it or not. I hope you do, but I'm quite certain that you're no further ahead when compared to good old fashioned proper engineering design.

[poynt99]

I don't see the fun in this challenge!

You could achieve 95 to 97% of your input from flyback with those conditions.
How could this be fair if you tell Brad what he has to use and you can chose what ever you wish?

Don't go for it Brad... unless you fire up your RT v3

Luc

Well hold on a minute there Luc, Brad is the one making claims that he has some extraordinary magic trick that is giving him better efficiency over anything else, so it is him that is putting those conditions on himself. The whole point of the challenge was to put good old engineering design up against his magic ssg scheme.

Capiche?