Why Doesn't A Magnet 'Feel' Like A Gyroscope?

[lumen]

You can't feel any gyro effect in a wire conducting electricity because of drift velocity - very, very, very slow. Microscopic, indeed.

A typical superconductor, when operating, may have a current density of 10^6A/cm^2.
In a two-fluid approximation (there are superconducting electrons and normal electrons), at low temperatures all of the electrons are in the superconducting state so n~10^22/cm^3.
The charge is the electric charge (really 2e since they are paired into Cooper pairs), so take e=1.6x10^-19 C
Then we find that v(superconductor)=600cm/s as a rough order of magnitude answer.

It looks like if you put enough current through a superconducting coil, you could move the electrons along at about 600cm/s
That should be enough to detect some gyroscopic effect but once you calculate the mass of all those electrons I'd bet it's very small.

Even then the magnetic field generated would be huge in comparison.

[verpies]

Here is what all of rigorous Science uses as a definition of time: "We shall assume without examination the unidirectional, one-valued, one-dimensional character of the time continuum." Reciprocal Systems

Did you even read the entire article you quoted.  Did you understand it?
That article opposes the idea conveyed by the passage that you quoted.
I agree with the article, but I disagree with the quote.

Writing statements like "time is too fast to be considered" is just silly.
First of all your units of space are in error and too small.  Read the article again and the website it came from.

Secondly, the mere idea of the speed of time is contradictory because time is needed to measure speed....as well as space.
It is the ratio of space to time that forms the speed of light.

You really should read your sources, not just quote from them disjoint passages.

[kmarinas86]

If you pick up a spinning gyroscope or any spinning mass, you will feel or see the effects of inertia and centrifugal force. The gyro will resist your efforts to twist away from the plane of its rotation.


OK, so why don't all permanent magnets do this? Do electrons have mass? Are they spinning? Are those spins aligned ( as the REASON WHY it has a magnetic field)? 


https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110405161715AAuefVm          I can't find any clear answer to this question. Indeed, it gets more weird as you look at it since some physics books claim that magnetism IS a form of centrifugal force.


I wonder if the answer to this question could open up some very important discoveries.

Electrons do move extremely fast, but their orbits are also extremely tight. Look up the current vector fields in the electron shell model used by Brilliant Light Power (formerly BlackLight Power). While according to theory they can orbit upwards of about 1/137th the speed of light (in the case of the ground state electron in a hydrogen atom), their orbits are on the order of 10^-10 meters radius, or 10^8 times less than your typical centimeter scale. Combine this with the fact that less than 1/1800th of the mass of a magnet is electrons, and less than 1/10th of that is unpaired electrons, you see that the angular momentum due to the unpaired electrons is actually very, very tiny. There is still plenty of energy to tap though, owing to the extremely high frequency of these rotations.

[guest1289]

Secondly, the mere idea of the speed of time is contradictory because time is needed to measure speed....as well as space.
It is the ratio of space to time that forms the speed of light.

But what about the 'Time-Dilation' effect that  satellites  experience :
http://www.askamathematician.com/2012/03/q-satellites-experience-less-time-because-theyre-moving-fast-but-more-time-because-theyre-so-high-is-there-an-orbit-where-the-effects-cancel-out-is-that-useful/

- What about if you walk past a desk, has time-for-you,  slowed down,  in comparison to time-for-the-desk, or in fact,  has time slowed down for both (  by an amount too small to be calculated ),  since you could claim the desk moved past you .

  And what about the outer-rim of a gyroscope-wheel,  or the electromotive-force( not the electrons ) running through a conductor( electricity is mostly electromotive-force ),   or,  the electrons themselves, which do something called  electron-drift in electrical-current .

    So,  in solid-state-devices,  and even in moving-parts-devices,  there must me some  'Time-Dilation' occuring .
     

[Eighthman]

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_34.html


Protons spin also, so if they align with a magnetic field, then that should be noticeable, too. All the more so, if their mass is so much greater.


The above reference seems to attempt a sort of answer in that we may be looking at a quantum mechanical effect that isn't completely 'real' or coalesced into the real world of classical physics.  You have something called "spin" but it has no specific direction of rotation - until it leaves the quantum realm. The problem with this explanation is that..... how can we have a real world effect of a magnetic field generated by the quantum world but then NOT have any gyroscopic action connected with it? So, the magnet part is here but the rest got left behind.....?