MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[tinman]

Brad:

No surprise, you would not account for your double-standard and your outrageous behaviour.

One more time, you are not playing the thread, the thread is playing you.  All that you are doing is showing that you are incapable of understanding the secondary issues related to an ideal voltage source.  Your imagination is not capable of going there and fully understanding this abstraction, it's beyond your powers of conception.  Even though I made several attempts to explain this to you, it didn't register, it was like talking to a blank wall.  I can assure you that many people feel dismay in seeing this limitation that you have.  The only thing you can do is comical, and pretend that it is wrong.  You are exposing your severe limitations.

I made mistakes in the JT thread, but you easily made 10X the number of mistakes.  I just didn't parade them around the block 40 times them like you did.  I could spin circles around you on a bench.

I did not go after Poynt because I knew that he just temporarily tripped up.  I knew that he knew the true answer just like he knew that I knew the true answer.  There was no double-standard.

If you say that I suffer from memory loss, then you suffer way more memory loss.  What about all of those technical points that just pass right through you like you aren't even there?  Did you forget my multiple attempts to explain the secondary issues related to an ideal voltage source to you?

Yes, and it's a shame that your brain is so stuck and so limited.  Unfortunately, there is nothing to laugh about there.

The above is just shameless bluffing in an attempt to save face but all that "bluffing" does is make you look even worse.

MileHigh

The facts are MH,you cannot back up your theory with a working modle--this is a truth that your words cannot deviate from.
As far as the JT thread go's,saying that i made 10 times the mistakes you did,is just an outright lie,and the proof of that is in the thread.

Another truth is that i accurately  described an ideal voltage source long before you did-another fact that is on this thread. The fact that you think that energy is not stored in the ideal voltage source,is a clear indication that you  are not full bottles on the meaning of an ideal source. Poynt and verpies agree with my description,so perhaps take it up with them,but i will tell you now ,the energy returned by the coil dose not just disappear as you stated.

I made you an offer to put your smarts to the test,in way of a friendly pulse motor challenge,but as usual,you declined the offer. Perhaps a JT challenge?,surely  you could throw one of them togeter?,and back up your claimed knowledge there?.

Words are just that MH,and mean nothing until they are backed up with actions.


Brad

[verpies]

Too much Tu Quoque

[MileHigh]

Brad:

I don't have to back up my theory with a working "modle," you are supposed to understand and appreciate this stuff in your head.  The simulations are often better than real life.  And I actually explained how to make a working model in quite a bit of detail unless you forgot that.

At the heart of every real coil you work with is an ideal inductor.  The resistance of the real coil is just window dressing draped over the ideal inductor.  And you have been playing with coils on the bench for six years without understanding how they actually work.  You are still stuck.

Go onto a real science forum and start a new thread with the title "After you strike a bell it is not resonating," and watch yourself get eaten alive.  You are still stuck there too.

A serious attempt was made to unstick you on these two important subjects and it failed and the reason is failed is mostly because you failed yourself.

Right now if I posted the nice graphic of the full solution that Poynt made and asked you to explain it in detail without using the formulas that you were given my assumption is that you would not be able to do that.  Likewise, I doubt that you would be able to explain why the second example I gave the answer for is correct.  So you did not get to the level that I was hoping for.  It's a bloody shame.  There are three more variations on the question that would also be very educational but it feels like it would be pointless since you are still stuck on the first one.  Could you answer Partzman's mini question with the voltage ramp?  I don't think you can.

I described an ideal voltage source about 40 years ago.  You are lost on the subtleties of an ideal voltage source and my sense is that Poynt was just being nice to you to avoid any hassle.

I am not going to be building anything, period.

MileHigh

[SeaMonkey]

...your double-standard and your outrageous behaviour.

Gadzooks!

Could this be the Pot calling the Kettle Black?

You are aware of the character trait which applies to the
Nom de Guerre who sanctimoniously accuses others of
the odd behaviors which he himself takes pleasure in?

Miles!  Are you losing your marbles?

H _ p _ c _ i _ y

The assumption or postulation of moral standards to which
one's own behavior does not conform.

[MileHigh]

Go foof Sea Monkey.  I am not claiming I am perfect, and what I said is valid.  Yes, getting into an argument with Brad can be very frustrating.  Why don't you try it sometimes?  After all, we all know that you are reasonably astute when it comes to electronics and you could have been raising objections to what Brad has been saying until you were blue in the face.  But, no surprise, you said nothing at all.  Backing me up technically would be unthinkable, right?  You just couldn't do that because I have openly discussed my opinion of your little pet "issues" and you don't like what I have to say.

I take no pleasure in fighting, that's a lie.  Brad took pleasure in attempting to do a farce of a technical setup on me where he fell flat on his face.  Why don't you go after him for that?  Why don't you go after Magluvin, because he takes pleasure in harassing me?  He did it recently and he also did for a full year non-stop and you had nothing to say about that.  Cat got your tongue?

You talk about losing marbles.  Tell us, when is the new projected date for The End of the World?  When are all the Dark Forces going to be revealed?  What are you going to do?  Do you have a remote cottage and three tons of spam in your cellar?

I am solid and not perfect and not nearly the hypocrite that you are.