MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[MileHigh]

You say Tinman is a Fumbling Bench Putz ??

Prove it.

Get real Chet, your words not mine.  You haven't seen threads before around Brad's builds where people like Poynt engage with him and the tension increases and increases because of basic disagreements over what is taking place in the experiment?  "We don't see eye to eye" - you haven't seen that before?  "Prove to me that magnets are not a source of energy" - how many times have you seen that battle?  You are in a mental prison of your own making and you can't speak the truth.  It must be awful.

But forget that, what is this thread about?  It's about basic electronics, not a bench experiment.  Sadly there was a failed attempt by Brad and others to answer a very simple and basic question by themselves.  It's fundamental knowledge that can also be used on the bench.  It's mind-blowing that people can play on a bench for years and years and not understand the most rudimentary and basic stuff about electronics but clearly it happens all the time.

[tinman]

Brad, you are so impossibly thick-headed and dense sometimes that it amazes me.

The "natural frequency" and the "resonant frequency" are synonymous, they mean the same bloody thing.

Yes they do MH. But just because something vibrates at it's natural resonant frequency,dose not mean it is resonating. When something is resonating,it is vibrating at it's natural frequency at maximum amplitude to that of a given input.
It would pay you to learn the basics before trying to teach people.

Brad

[tinman]

It's no surprise, you are completely and utterly lost.  After all that work.

"You place a voltage source across a voltage source?"  You have got to be kidding.

No, the water simply starts to slow down, it does not "disappear."  It's bloody rocket science.

No--you place a voltage across a current flow,where that voltage is ideal,and wants to create a current flow in the opposite direction to that of what already exist.

So limited in your thinking.

[minnie]

  Challenge to the tinman, who can come up with the biggest
pile of crap?
   John.

[MileHigh]

Yes they do MH. But just because something vibrates at it's natural resonant frequency,dose not mean it is resonating. When something is resonating,it is vibrating at it's natural frequency at maximum amplitude to that of a given input.
It would pay you to learn the basics before trying to teach people.

Brad

Right now I need TK's emoticon for the head banging against a wall.

If you could only think properly about certain situations and have some basic intuitive sense and had the ability to apply knowledge about one situation to a different but related situation, but apparently sometimes that is an impossible thing for you to do.  The fact that you can't realize or intuitively or scientifically understand that the bell is resonating after you strike it is mind boggling to me.  You are just making a fool of yourself without being aware of it.  You clearly believe that what you are saying is making sense and nothing is going to get through to you.  However, not being able to get through to you is no surprise.

I suppose it's also possible that since you started this discussion about resonance and got off on the wrong track, that your inability to admit that you are wrong means that you are psychologically compelled to "stick to your story," even though it is completely ridiculous.  So it's possible that you literally have a mental block, and admitting that the bell is resonating after you strike it is an impossible thing for you to do.  Your compulsion to refuse to admit that your original understanding was wrong literally forces you to state that the bell is not resonating after you strike it.  For you to admit that the bell was resonating would cause some kind of psychological implosion in your psyche.