TinMan's "Over Faraday HV HHO production"

[barbosi]

With HHO production it must be known that many previous researchers abandoned the idea because of the toxicity and the high cost imposed by regulations on disposal of the byproduct left in the cells.

[tinman]

With HHO production it must be known that many previous researchers abandoned the idea because of the toxicity and the high cost imposed by regulations on disposal of the byproduct left in the cells.

As we will be using high grade (316L) S/S,and no additives to the water,there will be no byproduct left in the cells.

All water conduct's,no matter how pure it is,as all water is full of H and O atoms.
The less conductive(higher purity)the water is,the higher the voltage we use.
And the higher the voltage we can use,the less current we need--and the less current we use,the lower the temperature the cell will run at. This means that more of the delivered power is used to produce gas,and less used to produce heat-unlike those who used low voltages and high currents--such as that which Faraday's limit was calculated from.


Brad

[i_ron]

As we will be using high grade (316L) S/S,and no additives to the water,there will be no byproduct left in the cells.

All water conduct's,no matter how pure it is,as all water is full of H and O atoms.
The less conductive(higher purity)the water is,the higher the voltage we use.
And the higher the voltage we can use,the less current we need--and the less current we use,the lower the temperature the cell will run at. This means that more of the delivered power is used to produce gas,and less used to produce heat-unlike those who used low voltages and high currents--such as that which Faraday's limit was calculated from.

Brad

I might add that this was discussed in the parent forum and the rational was that as this initial effort was proof of concept only then the minimal hazard from test cells could be tolerated but that further production should be moved towards titanium plate material.


quote from article: Also, in stainless steel applications, during the electrolysis process there is a discharge at the cathodes of a very toxic substance named hexavalent chromium. This is especially true if the stainless steel grade is less than 316L. Most companies want you to believe it is "just" rust. The truth is, this hexavalent chromium is brown in color and has been linked to cancer, birth defects and gene defects!! You might have seen this as brown colorized water and deposits in cheaper HHO generators.

http://www.drive60mpg.com/titaniumhho.html

Ron

[barbosi]

I was not talking about lo-tech materials (plates, gaskets, screws and stand-offs).

But go ahead, show the birth of an invention: the stem on the cherry.
Anxious to see when Faraday kicks in... Or maybe "Over Faraday HV" has nothing to do with that famous Faraday from electricity books? Time will tell if we're on fleek.

[pomodoro]

Most people don't realize that during normal electrolysis with just a few volts and a strong electrolyte, the water molecule splits because the electric field at the electrodes is in the order of millions of volts per meter. It can reach 100 million V/m. A strong electrolyte with a small inter electrode distance conduct the current very effectively with very low IxR losses, minimizing heating. The voltage drop thus  occurs mostly across the Helmholtz electric double layer which is nanometers thick, hence the great field.